Talk:Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic

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According to an encyclopedic dictionary I have from the late cold war era, it's entry on this topic begins as;

"Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic. formerly Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic"

Would anyone happen to know the date of official change from the name Federated to Federative with cyrillic versions of both, for the disambiguation of reference to the RSFSR in proper context for timeline? Nagelfar 10:32, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

That seems to be a misunderstanding. In Russian, there is no difference between federated and federative. Perhaps only the English name has changed. — Monedula 12:47, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Okay, well the source of this as I've found it was the 'Tormont Webster's Illustrated Encyclopedic Dictionary, 1987 Houghton Mifflin Company.' Nagelfar 00:58, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Name in Revolutionary times

Bolshevist Russia says:

The official name of the country was the Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic. Strictly speaking, there is a small time gap between the October Revolution and the declaration of the RSFSR (and a still larger gap to its first Constitution, in 1918),...

Soviet Russia says:

Russian SFSR (Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic), the Soviet Russian state officially founded in 1918, some months after the October Revolution of 1917

But this article on the Russian SFSR says

In English, the term Bolshevist Russia is commonly used for the period 1917–1922. In Russian official documents of the time it was referred to as Russian Republic (Российская республика) and Soviet Republic (Советская республика).

So what was the official, or commonly-used name before formation of the the USSR? —Michael Z. 2006-10-28 22:28 Z

Russian Republic was founded on 1917-09-01 - before October Revolution. And then it's first "soviet" name was not Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic but Russian Socialist Federated Soviet Republic (1918-1936), until the new 1936 USSR Constitution changed the order of words.80.240.220.40 22:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed move to Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic

It seems that given that the formal name for this nation was "Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic", the soviet prefix abbreviation (-"SFSR") shouldn't be in the full article name. Therefore, I propose to move the article to its full form, Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic. We wouldn't have an article about North Korea titled "DPRK", would we? --Micahbrwn (talk) 10:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Please discuss this multimove here --Lox (t,c) 11:42, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction

The infobox states the republic lasted until 1991, but some ASSRs ended in 1992, according to their Wikipedia pages. ☆ CieloEstrellado 22:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

1991 was when the RSFSR became the Russian Federation. The ASSRs which existed within the RSFSR continued to exist within the Russian Federation, until their status changed in 1992. So, there really is no contradiction here. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:40, 12 March 2008 (UTC)