Talk:Russian Revival
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1. Statement of "Tatar architecture" needs some explanation - what it is, what exactly was borrowed etc. Those familiar with current Qazan will shake their heads in disbelief...
2. Statement of "Official Style...", for post-1881 period, again, needs evidence and clarification. Look closely at what was built at this time - R.R. is definitely a minority.
3. The authors completely missed the economical aspect of Byzantine or R.R. spread after 1881. It's in the bottomline and less dependence on skilled workers and rare finishes. Red brick vs. marble.
4. The authors completely missed post-1905 developments. NVO 14:45, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
5. Now, something I missed first: Industrial architecture! NVO 08:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I wouldn't disagree that the article needs developing. As its erstwhile translator all it's errors of translation are , of course, mine, and they may well be many. There is however no ambiguity about tartarskoy, but on the russian page it is a red link and the authors don't elaborate further. Candidly I don't know what they were refering to. As for offical style it should be noted that stil' modern evolved at this time but was not, I believe, patronised by the church or state only the psuedorussian style was - but I agree this needs clarifing. Points 3 & 4 - fair enough, there is however a bigger deficit. Like Greek and Gothic revival, Russian revival had its origins in architectural scholarship and archaeology, this history needs to be explained and the names of André Durand, AA Martynov, IM Snegirev, VV Suslov, Igor Grabar and the Moscow Archaeological Society be recorded. There is a useful chapter in GH Hamilton's Art and Architecture of Russia and a slightly less useful section in the Grove dictionary of art, I would like to rewrite this article myself but I'm engaged in other things right now. Twospoonfuls 15:57, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I added some tidbits on Gornostaev (so far, only two of the three) NVO 21:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I have carefully scattered across Wikipedia many links to this term, because I have a long article written on the subject a year or two ago. I will post it once I return to English wikipedia full time. Please leave it for the time being. --Ghirla -трёп- 14:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- I do hope you're not thinking of replacing the page completely with something of your own. That would be rather annoying. Why can't you just add to it as it is? Twospoonfuls 18:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, it does make sense - current page is too broadly defined (or not defined at all). But certain revivalist movements will, most likely, fall out of scope of any single text, and then go figure how to integrate them back under the same umbrella? NVO 19:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, go on then. Twospoonfuls 14:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, it does make sense - current page is too broadly defined (or not defined at all). But certain revivalist movements will, most likely, fall out of scope of any single text, and then go figure how to integrate them back under the same umbrella? NVO 19:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
We've rather made rods for our own backs with all these subsections. If this page is not going to be rewritten or added to then perhaps we should delete most of them. Twospoonfuls 17:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Created a Commons category, checked what I could find on Moscow plus some new pics:
NVO 20:07, 30 April 2007 (UTC)