Talk:Russia (USSR) vs Rest of the World

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[edit] Table?

Would it be better to put the match-ups in a table? Bubba73 (talk), 05:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

  • I think yes, if you can find an attractive way to do it. Does CL have a good layout we can use as a model? Quale (talk) 05:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
No, but I was thinking columns for: Board number, USSR player, score, World player, country. It would make it easier to read. Bubba73 (talk), 05:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Following is the layout used on Playchess server for Scheveningen tournaments. The ChessBase layout has the Russia playernames vertical (difficult with tables):
            RUSSIA           
            1. Khalifman     
            | 2. Karpov      
            | | 3. Grischuk  
            | | | 4. Svidler 
WORLD       | | | |         
1. Radjabov ½ 1 0 0          
2. Smirin   ½ 1 ½ ½          
3. Polgar   - 0 0 -          
4. Short    ½ 0 ½ ½

└ VodkaJazz / talk ┐ 01:40, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

That would be good for the third tournament - much more concise. Rather than listing the Russian names at the top, simply put 1, 2, 3, ... and give a legend at the bottom with the names. The first two tournaments could be put in a table too. Bubba73 (talk), 01:43, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I kind of like a format that abbreviates the names, for example
World Flag of Russia Russia
Kha Kar Gri Svi
1 Flag of Azerbaijan Radjabov (AZE) ½ 1 0 0
2 Flag of Israel Smirin (ISR) ½ 1 ½ ½
3 Flag of Hungary Polgar (HUN) – 0 0 –
4 Flag of England Short (ENG) ½ 0 ½ ½
Wikilinks give the full names in balloons on mouse over. On the other hand, maybe this works better for small round robins, as then it's symmetric—the names abbreviated at the top are given in full down the left side. Here one set of names is given in full and the other abbreviated, and the choice is arbitrary. Actually here the choice wouldn't be arbitrary if we used flags. (Fiddled around a bit to add flags to try it out.) Not sure it looks quite right yet. Quale (talk) 06:10, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Official?

The article says "There have been three official chess matches featuring ...". As far as I know, there have not been any such unofficial matches, so the word "official" can be taken out. Right? Bubba73 (talk), 06:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Agree again. Official is redundant. Sometimes slight redundancy can help understanding, usually it's just wordy and gets in the way. This gets in the way. Quale (talk) 06:30, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I officially removed it. Bubba73 (talk), 15:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Billed as?

Article says "was billed as 'The Match of the Century' " - was it called that beforehand? In Chess Life, the best I could tell is that it was called "the great match" until the June 1970 issue (reporting after the match), so was it really billed as the "Match of the Century"? Bubba73 (talk), 06:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Play it cool

Chess Life, July 1970 article by Miro Radojcic, pp 368-70, "Observation Point: A Sentimental Journey". Page 369 - "The way it was, the Soviet captain had the oppertunity to play it cool; thus it happened that he put Botvinnik versus Matulovic, Taimanov versus Uhlmann and Keres versu Ivkov - in all three cases exposing the members of the world team to that most uncomfortable business of having to play opponents against whom, for one reason or another, they had never played well in the past." Bubba73 (talk), 15:28, 21 January 2008 (UTC)