Talk:Russell Crowe

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[edit] Gay icon

Before anyone jumps on my freaking back for adding Russell as a gay icon, read this article:

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/crowe%20becomes%20gay%20icon

[edit] Extra image

Below is the image from The Insider for future use. The image may need to be resized.

Image:Russell Crowe Insider promo.jpeg
Crowe packed on extra pounds to play the character of Dr. Jeffrey Wigand in The Insider.

[edit] Fourth Degree Posession

Can someone please tell me what this means?

I would like to know it as well. It's kind of hard to understand for an European. Could anyone please explain it? What are these Degrees of Posession? Thanks in advance!--Nemissimo II 19:15, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quoted fuck

I've restored the 'fuck' in the GQ quote, as it is a direct quote from the article. see: http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,1433507,00.html kju 10:56, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I've had to restore it again. Whomever wishes to remove it or replace it with f*** might best see Wikipedia:Profanity first. kju 15:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Zealand American

Crowe is not a New Zealand-American by the Wikipedia definition:

"An American citizen or a person born in the United States of America who is:

   * born in New Zealand
   * has any New Zealand ancestry"

Crowe is not an American citizen, nor was he born in America. Russell Crowe was born in Wellington, New Zealand, and has no American ancestry. kju 00:27, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Maori Ancestry

Is it true that he has Maori ancestry? He is list on the List of Māori people page. Indisciplined 17:32, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hollywood

A lot of space is devoted to the section on temperatment (which is good), but there is little in the Hollywood section, and most of what is there is about a terrorist threat. More attention could be given to what this guy is known for, and why his has an article in wikipedia, which is making hollywood movies. The page could have an image of him also - Matthew238 08:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

He's most famous for being a violent, arrogant thug.

[edit] Japanese

Can he speak Japanese? How did he learn ?--Jondel 08:48, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Defamation warning

Under the heading, 'Temperament', the line "... which three men unsuccessfully used to attempt to extort money from him" is none-too-clever and should be deleted/seriously amended forthwith. (I'll leave the actual restructuring to those who have existing involvement with the page.) The men were acquitted of extortion-related offences, and according to media reports have now sued the state for malicious prosecution. The line cited runs a grossly serious risk of being defamatory; bearing in mind the men's willingness to litigate, the risk is not merely theoretical.203.3.176.10 02:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] YES!

There's already a reference in this article to the South Park episode. I was going to add it if there wasn't one. That's my favorite South Park episode ever.

"Making movies, making music, and fightin' 'round the world!"

[edit] Late Show

It is inaccurate to say that he was cast in a 1990 film after guest starring in the Late Show as Shirty the slightly aggressive bear - because the late show was on in 1992 and 1993!

[edit] Russell Crowe Australian?

From the information I have, Russell Crowe is not Australian nor does he have Australian citizenship. He is in the process of obtaining it but he is still not a Aussie.

Source: http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2006-01-27#celeb5

or can anyone prove that he is? I don't want to open a can of worms here but it is not accurate to say that he is Australian if in fact he isn't.--James Bond 09:56, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Hes holds australian citizenship now for certain. But im not sure if he still holds New Zealand citizenship.

Yes, he's certainly a New Zealand citizen - and will remain one until he dies unless he formally renounces his citizenship, which is an extremely rare occurence.

[edit] Russel Crowe On South Park

I loved how he called people "scrotum", "testicle" and "vagina" 70.49.206.25 03:22, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I removed Fightin' Around the World (TV Show) (2002) linking to South Park from the list, as it looks dubious --h2g2bob (talk) 23:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Needs citations

I've removed some material from the article, per Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. If sources can be found, please add (with source) back to the article. --h2g2bob (talk) 00:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Family

Crowe also dated American actress Meg Ryan after they had an admitted affair while filming Proof of Life (2000) and in the past, he has been linked to Erica Baxter, Peta Wilson and Courtney Love.

Music

Crowe's early stage name as a musician was "Rus Le Roq" and he was billed as such while performing with the New Zealand production of The Rocky Horror Show. Crowe also toured with Grease in the Australian company.

[edit] Knitting?

It says under "Family Life" that knitting is a past time of Crowe's. It doesn't cite any references. Is this true? (DGOZ)

[edit] Dark Knight

This article currently lists Russell Crowe as having a cameo role in The Dark Knight, and where I do remember hearing a rumor of this some time ago, is there any confirmation of this casting decision? 24.24.90.148 22:09, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Strange...

Very strange how this guy doesn't have a controversy section after his several fights... Oh yeah, he's white & this is wikipedia so never mind

Instead of sniping from the sidelines, why don't you create a controversy section with references and links? Oh yeah, you're an anon poster, so never mindYorkshiresky (talk) 17:44, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

You're blaming it on his "Whiteness"? Oh come on!!! And there is a section about his temper so why don't you shove it before I throw a phone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.15.38 (talk) 17:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Australian Citizenship

Is he an Australian Citizen yet? Im a little confused by the source provided.. Matt (talk) 05:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Yes he has been for a long time, he is well known as an australian. I will add another ref soon and re add what you removed.Thuringowacityrep (talk) 10:46, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

:Please remember to add a reliable citation, or it will be removed. Matt (talk) 12:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Actually, i would like to take this discussion further. Although (if what you claim to be true, is true) Russell Crowe may be a dual type citizen, holding both New Zealand and Australian citizenship, i believe the lead sentence refers to in fact his nationality, something different to his citizenship. He is of New Zealand nationality, and has both New Zealand and Australian citizenship. I believe therefore, the lead sentence should state that he is of New Zealand nationality, and be left how it is. Please state what you believe before changing the article Matt (talk) 12:31, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
If you are going to make a distinction between nationality and citizenship then Russell Crowe clearly qualifies as an Australian actor. The reason being that he spent a good deal of his formative years there, indeed it is where he began his career as an actor. In fact I cannot recall a single New Zealand film in which he has had a role. Hence I will change the article to reflect these considerations.Ernest the Sheep (talk) 02:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
But alas, not nationality, which is what the sentence refers to. It is clear in the article that australia claims him to be an australian actor, but the lead is factually correct the way it was. He spent about half of his 'formative' years in Australia, and half in New Zealand. He was born in New Zealand, to New Zealand parents with New Zealand roots. He has nationality connection to Australia apart from where he made his acting carrer, and residing there currently, thus he is of New Zealand nationality. Arnold Schwarzenegger is not of American nationality, he is of Austrian (not Australian, dont go claiming him too) decent and is called an Austrian actor as such. And, he has appeared in New Zealand films. Best, Matt (talk) 06:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC) :).
I don't think it is very clear what the sentence refers to at all. According to Wikipedia guidelines nationality can refer to the country where a person is either a citizen or a national. So you would appear to be incorrect on that count. Of course these are only guidelines and a good helping of commonsense is also required lest we get bogged down in such details. But I do think you are being slightly possessive in insisting on a New Zealand only reference at the start of the article. Especially as it is clear that Crowe regards himself as both a New Zealander and an Australian. As you say he has spent an equal share of his formative years in both countries, while it was certainly in Australia that his career as a leading actor in feature films began to bring him worldwide recognition. I do not believe he has lived in New Zealand since then, and he has by now resided in Australia a lot longer than he has in New Zealand. Perhaps if you don't like the change I have made you can revert to something along the lines of New Zealand-Australian as an opening description. And I still cannot recall any New Zealand films in which he has had a role. Perhaps you could supply a title for one of these films?Ernest the Sheep (talk) 08:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I am not being possessive, and apologise if i am coming off that way. I am simply requesting a cited line for this. For a person with dual citizenship, it makes sense to go to their nationality instead. He is a New Zealand national. The article states that he made his success in Australia. Please do not revert again or you will be blocked in accordance with WP:3RR. Wikipedia is not a place for what you believe to be factually correct, but for what can be proven. Currently, the only cite states he is not an Australian citizen. As for the films, there are many TV's shows. Do a quick search yourself instead of stating what you 'recall'.
Do not edit an article in the middle of discussion, and do not breach WP:3RR. You will be blocked. I am reverting the changes (which are classed as vandalism, and therefore not subject to WP:3RR), but feel free to edit the article constructivly, backing up all your claims. Thank you, Matt (talk) 09:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I have looked everywhere and all i can find is that Crowe went for Australian citizenship back in 2006 and it was going to be shown on live TV see this ref [1] he has only ever been known as an Australian actor and has never done any New Zealand films, so what is wrong with having the intro like this " Russell Ira Crowe (born 7 April 1964 in Wellington, New Zealand) is an Academy Award, Golden Globe, Screen Actors Guild Award winning Australian actor " this is true and correct, points out that he is a New Zealand citizen but that he is an Australain actor. It is not that hard really...come on, what are your thoughts? Thuringowacityrep (talk) 00:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

That it is unsourced, and common sense doesn't apply to wikipedia. I may be coming off as trying to oppress material, but that is not my intention whatsoever. The lead needs a rewrite, but i do not myself feel comfortable doing it to avoid controversy. I'll leave it as NZ-Auz for now, but will attempt to rewrite it. Matt (talk) 04:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)