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  • "For C. Settipani (1991), Ruricius is the great-grandson of (Pontius) and (Anicia), daughter of Q. Clodius Hermogenianus Olybrius, cos. 379.
  • For Stan Mommaerts and Dave Kelley (1992), Ruricius is a son of N, a proconsul of Africa, a son of Petronius Maximus, emp. 455, son of Anicius Probinus, cos. 395.
  • For Ralph Mathisen (1999), Ruricius is the son of (Constantius) and (Leontia). His paternel grandfather would be Flavius Constantius Felix, cos. 428." [1]

"Mathison says that Bishop Ruricius of Limoges may have had land in or near Cahors; and also that the wife and sister of Sidonius Apollinaris' son, Apollinaris, fled there after some act of political indiscretion in the time of King Theuderic I - suggesting that perhaps they, (the Apollinari/Aviti), too, had property there. And Mathieson relates a legend concerning Bishop Sacerdos of Limoges that may demonstate a tie of Sidonius Apollinaris' brother-in-law, Ecdicius, son of emperor Avitus, to the Cahors area".[2]

[edit] Speculative line of descent from Herod I through Ruricius to Charlemagne

1. Herod I the Great, King of Judea. b. c73 B.C. d. 4 B.C. m. to Mariamne, dau. of Alexander (son of Aristobulus, King of Judea) & Alexandra (dau. of Hyrcanus II, High Priest of the Jews). (George Wissowa [ed.], Pauly's Realencyclopadie der Classischen Altertumswissenschaft, Supplementary Vol. 2 [Stuttgart, 1913], chart bet. pp. 15-16).

2. Aristobulos. d. 7 B.C. m. to Berenike, dau. of Kostobar & Salome (d. c A.D. 10), dau. of Antipatros & sister of Herod. (ibid.).

3. Herod, King of Chalkis. d. A.D. 48. m. to Berenike (b. A.D. 29), dau. of Agrippa I, King of Judea (brother of Herod of Chalkis), & Kypros, dau. of Phasael (nephew of Herod) & Salampsio. (ibid.).

4. (Iulia). b. say A.D. 45. m. to C. Iulius Tigranes (V), King of Armenia (d. aft. A.D. 62). (ibid.; Christian Settipani, Continuité gentilice et continuité familiale dans les familles sénatoriales romaines: mythe et réalité [2000], p. 456).

5. C. Iulius Alexander, King in Cilicia. d. aft. c105. m. to Iotape, dau. of Antiochos IV, King of Commagne & Iotape. (Pauly-Wissowa; Settipani, pp. 448, 458).

6. (Iulia). m. to C. Iulius Quadratus Bassus, suf. 105, leg. Dacia 117. d. 117. (Settipani, p. 458).

7. (Iulia Quadratilla). m. to C. Iulius Lupus T. Vibius Varus Laevillus, quaest As. 132. (ibid., p. 458).

8. (A. Iulis). (ibid., p. 458).

9. (Iulia Qaudratilla). m. to (C. Asinius Nicomachus). (ibid., p. 189).

10. C. Asinius Protimus Quadratus, suf. c.200, procos. Ach. c211. d. aft. 235. (ibid., p. 189).

11. C. Asinius Nicomachus Iulianus, suf. c215/20, procos. As. c230. (ibid., p. 189),

12. (Asinia Iuliana). m. to (Anicius Faustus). (ibid., p. 432).

13. Anicius Faustus, consul 298. d. aft. 300. m. to (Amnia) Demetrias. (ibid., p. 432).

14. Amnius Anicius Iulianus, consul 322. d. aft. 329. m. to (Caesonia Manilia). (ibid., p. 432).

15. Amnius Manius Caesonius Nicomachus Anicius Paulinus, consil 334. m. to (Auchenia Bassa). (ibid., p. 432).

16. Anicius Auchenius Bassus. d. aft. 385. m. to Turrania Honorata. (ibid., p. 432).

17. Turrania Anicia Iuliana. m. to Q. Clodius Hermogenianus Olybrius, consul 379. (ibid., p. 432).

18. (Anicia). m. to Pontius. (Christian Settipani, Les Ancestres de Charlemagne [Paris: Editions Christian, 1989], p. 172).

19. Adelphius or Hermogenianus. (ibid., p. 172).

20. Ruricius, Bishop of Limoges, c.485-507. A descendant of the Anicii. (ibid., p. 172).

21. (dau.). m. to Rusticius, Bishop of Lyons, 494-501. (ibid., p. 127).

22. Artemia. m. to Florentinus, Bishop of Geneva, 513. (ibid., p. 111).

23. (dau.). m. to Munderic, pretender to the Austrasian throne, c.532. (ibid., pp. 95-96).

24. Mummolin, poss. Mayor of the Palace of Neustria, 566. m. to the sister of Aunulf, Duke of Angouleme. (ibid., pp. 79-80).

25. Bodogisel, ambassador to Byzantium, 589. m. to Chrodoare (St. Oda), abbess of Amay, aft. 589-bef. 634. (ibid., pp. 63-65).

26. Saint Arnulf, Bishop of Metz, 614-629. m. to Doda. (ibid., pp. 43-48).

27. Ansegisel, fl. 648. m. to Begga, Abbess of Andenne, who d. 693. (ibid., pp. 31-33).

28. Pepin of Herstal, Mayor of the Palace, 688/90-714. m. to Alpaide. (ibid., pp. 22-25).

29. Charles Martel, Duke of the Franks, 717-741. m. to Rotrude. (ibid., pp. 18-20).

30. Pepin the Short, King of the Franks, 751-768. m. to Bertha of Laon. (ibid., pp. 15-17).

31. Carolus Magnus (Charlemagne), King of the Franks, Emperor of the West. b. 2 Apr 748. d. 28 Jan 814 at the palace of Aix-la-Chapelle. m. to bef. 30 Apr 771 to Hildegardis, dau. of Gerold I, Count in Vinzgau & Imma, dau. of the german Duke Hnabi. (Christian Settipani, La Prehistoire des Capetiens, 481-987, Premiere Partie [Villeneuve d'Ascq, 1993], p. 191-204).

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