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[edit] Comment 1
From what I know, it is not the Zamorin, who had the 'Chaver'. It was from Walluvanad kingdom. Zamorins were attacked by the Chavers.
Also I do not think, this explanation, needs to come as a part of Amok.
[edit] References
Could the editor who added the references from Skeat and the old encylopedia give proper citations please? Who is Skeat, where and when did he say this; and which old encylopedia, date of publication etc. I've added the disputed tag in the meantime, and I'll remove these quotes in a few days if no references are found. I also removed the tag saying the article should be spit, as I think it can stand alone as a single issue. Hope no one minds that I removed that. Please say if you do. I'm going to try to expand the article a bit, as it's an interesting issue. Slim 01:12, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Videogame
Amok is also a nice mecha action game for the Sega Saturn by (now defunct) Danish developer Scavenger.
chavers were suicide squads which were employed in malabar especially during the chola wars in the 11th century. these would ambush the enemy and fight until death, typically against overwhelming odds.
[edit] Meaning of the word Chaver
chavers were suicide squads made up of members of the nair caste,and were employed in malabar especially during the chola wars in the 11th century. these would ambush the enemy and fight until death, typically against overwhelming odds.
[edit] Amok
In the April 25, 2005 edition of the Newsweek Magazine the word Amok is used in a special report to express the chaos and violence that are destroying Rio de Janeiro City.
[edit] Dispute?
What exactly is being disputed in the article content? If the dispute can't be summarized here, the tag should be removed. Jpatokal 07:53, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Amok, Iich'aa Going Postal
There is an ongoing project which includes Amok, Iich'aa, Going Postal and other sudden violence events. Cabin Fever was a sudden instance of one cabin mate going berserk and attempting to kill the other during the early 1800's. This happened when trappers, mountain men, wintered over in too-small cabins.
There is no reference in the article that these other similar behaviors happen around the world but have different names.
Going Postal is listed as a slang term but it is considered a Culture Bound Syndrome of the United States.
Amok happens where traditional longhouses are used. Entire villages living in single-room housing provide many opportunities for exposure to Visual Subliminal Distraction.
It is rare because of the masive exposure required to cause the psychiatric effect.
Like Jumping Frenchmen of Maine, Amok is disappearing as those crowded too-close longhouse living arrangements disappear,
The project site (URL below) has links that are too numerous to use in a Wikipedia article.
http://visionandpsychosis.net/Culture_Bound_Syndromes.htm
There is a psychology demonstration that will allow you to experience 'habituation to extinction' of awareness of movement in Subliminal Peripheral Vision.
http://visionandpsychosis.net/a_demonstration_you_can_do.htm
L K Tucker 20:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Amok as 'suicide by cop'
68.150.52.86 22:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC) When I was growing up in Malaysia-Singapore in the 50s through the 70s news reports of a Malay man running amok were quite common. The reason why someone would go into a frenzy and kill a complete stranger(s) in broad daylight was thus. The Koran forbids a Muslim from committing suicide. If conditions become so unbearable that the person feel he can find relief only in death then the religious-cultural solution is to murder a stranger. This is done in the open so that there is no mistake as to his crime and the mandatory penalty is execution. Its the Malay equivalent of "suicide by cop."
Kelvin M. February 8, 2006
- ... And that's why they call it the Religion of Peace. -- amok
[edit] References to Malabar and Zamorin are grossly erroneous
Please note that the article's references to the custom of Zamorin committing suicide is absloutely fictitious. I live in Malabar. Zamorin dynasty figures in our folklore. Nothing of this kind is ever said to have happened, either by the historians or in the orally transferred lore of the land. Savemalayalam 16:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
The reference to Malabar and zamorin is pure nonsense. Alexnader Hamilton was no historian. His accounts are apparently unreliable. There never was custom of a zamorin killing himself. It is being removed. Savemalayalam 17:12, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sentence Amendment
'The observations of Skeat about the Malay race are not unique since berserker myths . . . '
As a historian specialising in Norse history, I can guarantee you that berserkers were not mythical. I am altering this sentence. SynthesiseD 04:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Derivation
Any thoughts on etymology? I wonder if amok is related to 7mok in Arabic, pronounced like "hammock" with the second syllable emphasized. Mashford 14:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Recent recurrence
Do school shootings really qualify as "running amok". Most of those are planned well in advance, with the shooters calm throughout the episode. thx1138 (talk) 20:21, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
