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Great effort Billion! All we really need now is a good picture to go with the description. AndyBrandt 10:15, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks Andy, and I agree it needs a picture. Any one got one, or planning to go there? Billlion 17:35, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Ownership
I expect this article will magnetize strong feelings, that's not surprising with such a heart felt issue. I just removed the 2004 claim of ownership because I googled and found this rebuttal from the opposing view: [1]. May the broken hearts of all sides on this fraction of the karma kagyu lineage be mended. - Owlmonkey (talk) 18:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)