Talk:Rugby union in Wales
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I've changed the name. I'm not interested in either form of rugby, but I'm working on the menu system for British sport and it should be consistent. The category should really be changed too - a lot of Welsh people may wish that rugby league didn't exist, but Wikipedia should reflect the world as it is, not as we would like it to be. Philip 15:33, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC) There are two articles with very similar titles and overlapping subject areas Welsh rugby union seems to have simply been called Welsh rugby to start with, there is possibly scope to have a History of Welsh rugby union article but details of leagues, clubs etc surely belong in the Welsh Rugby Union article as the WRU are the governing body for rugby union in Wales and are responsible for running these leagues, clubs etc.GordyB 11:10, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. There are many aspects of Welsh rugby that could not be properly covered in an article on the WRU, such as the history of rugby in Wales, its social impact on Welsh people, its political implications, and so on. If anything, the WRU article should be deleted first as much narrower in scope. Rls 01:27, 2005 Mar 13 (UTC)
You make some good points but you can't delete the WRU article as it is the governing body and other union governing bodies e.g. RFU, IRB have their own articles. What I think needs to happen is for those who want to keep this article to think of a new title and add the proposed scope to the discussion page.GordyB 10:12, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Why does it need a new title? I suppose Welsh rugby union and Welsh Rugby Union is a little confusing. How about Rugby union in Wales? I would transfer it but that would lose the vfd tag. Rls 13:21, 2005 Mar 14 (UTC)
I was thinking of suggesting Rugby union in Wales myself, though the scope of the article needs to be defined. Social aspects clearly belong on this page as probably does discussion of the history of the game in Wales or cwpan (dodgy spelling) but details of pro leagues should (IMO) stay with the WRU article.
- If nobody else has an opinion I'm going to a) remove vfd tag b) move article to Rugby union in Wales c) add this to the discussion section d) do some surgery on the article to remove stuff that unnecessarily duplicates WRU article. I'll wait a couple of days but I don't see the point in waiting much longer as I'm not actually deleting the page.GordyB 12:39, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I personally think that league details are more appropriate to Rugby union in Wales since the WRU merely organises them on behalf of the clubs involved, but I don't feel strongly about it. Modify it as you see fit. I don't of course have any objection to removing the VfD tag. Rls 17:21, 2005 Mar 15 (UTC)
- Okay. I'll try to keep the WRU article specific to the WRU's role in these things and make the 'new' article rather broader.GordyB 23:03, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I personally think that league details are more appropriate to Rugby union in Wales since the WRU merely organises them on behalf of the clubs involved, but I don't feel strongly about it. Modify it as you see fit. I don't of course have any objection to removing the VfD tag. Rls 17:21, 2005 Mar 15 (UTC)
Interesting to see Tommy David elevated to the pantheon of 70s Welsh Rugby gods. I wonder what the likes of Gerald Davies , Merve the Swerve, Graham Price and John Dawes would make of it.68.71.35.93 07:03, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
If you don't agree with an article, use the edit feature.GordyB 12:42, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] New Zealanders born and play rugby for wales at interNational
New zealanders that have played for wales at interNational leval please can you help me i was tolled that there have been 7 new zealanders play for wales but i can only think of 5= hemi taylor shane howarth bret sinkinson dale Mcintosh sonny parker
if you no can you let me no thanks dean
[edit] This page is a mess
I'm amazed this page has continued without being deleted. References are nowhere, apart from a tragic story about a man who should appear on a page about mental illness rather than one of the national pride of Wales. There is far too much opinion, weasel words, flowery prowse and incorrect statements. Is there anyone with reference books and articles regarding the popularity and adopotion of Rugby Union as the countries national sport?--FruitMonkey 11:23, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- The History side is a good start, but we need clarification regarding the statement that Wales played in black before 1880, as the first international game played by Wales was in 1881 against England. More info is also needed on how Rugby came to Wales, and the importance of the college teams like Llandovery and Lampeter. Also there needs to be info on the 1881-1970 years, maybe the religous revival and the growth of the lesser valley clubs. The popularity section is just pointless, we need referenced pieces, such as why in Wales Football was Rugby and Soccer was Football. The importance of the six nations to the country's psyche and maybe less about testicle removal as it makes the Welsh sound like cavemen. Thoughts--FruitMonkey 19:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- I agree the reference to a man on medication castrating himself has no place on the article about rugby--Rhyswynne 17:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
