Talk:Rugby league in Australia
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[edit] Most popular national sport?
This article claims that "It [rugby league] competes with Australian Rules Football for the title of "most popular national sport" [in Australia]". I don't know the statistics, but isn't cricket more popular than both sports given its truely national following and doesn't football (soccer) have more participation. I imagine lawn bowls and netball are quite popular as well. In short, is there a reference that can back the claim up? (Oh, and I reckon Aussie rules is far more popular than league, but I'm biased.) --ThirdEdition 23:32, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- Someone else brought this up. I was going to change it, but couldn't be bothered :). On reflection, I'd agree that it should be changed. Also, popularity is hard to gauge, perhaps we should find some other way to describes its popularity with out actualy using the word. Such as 2nd largest Attended sport? Although, I know that's now true, because horse racing is number one I believe, or maybe it was AFL, then racing, motor sports and RL. Perhaps we could say 2nd most popular or followed or attended football code in Australia? If you think of a good one, edit it, or tell me about it ;).
- Hows that change? ... I knew i'd end up editing it myself! Why o why is this so addictive? POds 09:26, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
- I'm happy that what you've got there now is factually accurate, so if your happy with it that's fine. According to an Australian Bureau of Statistics survey in 2002, Aussie Rules (2.5 million) was attended by the most adult individuals, then horse racing (1.9 million), motor racing (1.5 million) and rugby league (1.5 million). --ThirdEdition 04:14, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
- I'm well versed in those statistics :). If u know of any similar statistics for the England, leave a reference at the bottom of the England page. POds 05:37, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Help!
A few soccer fundamentalists are hijacking the term football in Australian articles. See, for example, [[Category:Football_in_Australia]]. We need concerted action to stop this. Grant65 | Talk 10:16, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] I think local clubs need more of a mention
There is very little about Rugby League in Australia except for the professional competitions and how this affects perception. Australian professional Rugby League is only the tip of the ice-berg when it comes to participation generally. Local Rugby League clubs are important in develpoing social skills and providing role models for the youth. From my experience(extensive enough) WOMAN ARE JUST AS INVOLVED IN THE LOCAL CLUBS AS MEN. Also local Rugby League clubs are important to community life and social structure with many people who have not played at the club for twenty years still hanging around and coaching a team every now and than.
Also there is very little about the game's Irish roots in Sydney and Brisbane, Past Brothers, many local teams are in fact local catholic schools(Mostly Irish with a bit of Italian) who play against the local clubs in competition (Mostly Anglo-Celtic and working class as well as immigrant). I will begin to implement these changes. --Judas Iscariot 05:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Just adding that otherwise I think that this article is an excellent accumulation of knowledge and statistics. --Judas Iscariot 06:12, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- As the original author of this article, i look forward to your changes :) POds 11:53, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Found that some of your statistics are a little bit wrong. I have also seen the source of your statistics as well which I think are for seniors exclusively. However this site http://www.qrl.com.au/display.php?pg_id=1600 puts the number as 355000 participants. Admittedly at schools and club levels that some of these numbers could be a double up but I think that any way of looking at it, there are at least 250000 rugby league players. Of cause this place is not to cite speculation but any manner of looking at this, the numbers are a bit wrong. Pods, since in trying to research some of these things, your identity has come up more than once, I feel that pointing this out to you is better than just trampling over many of the things that you have written. Judas Iscariot2
- I've been meaning to update the figures lately. There are for 2002/2003. Also, Try t NEVER use statistics gathered by a particular organisation that shows the statistics of that organisation, because they show bias. For example. Your sources are from the QRL. I would highly recommend against this and continue to use the sources in this file. I.e. Mainly the Australian Bereau of Statistics. POds 01:21, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
How about this than? http://www.ausport.gov.au/scorsresearch/ERASS2004/ERASS2004_table13.pdf This is for 2004 since which there has been an increase in RL and decline in RU. Judas Iscariot2
- Yes, the 2003 ERASS was used to write this page. If your going to update the figures, keep in mind i was going to change everything to percentages or talk in as less specifics as possible. I.e. Perhaps its better to say how much, in percentage terms, people participate in rugby league compared to other sports. That way, things will perhaps not get out of date as quickly. Also, it would be good if we could emcompass several years results, so that we can show how things are changing. POds 10:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
On this it is relevant to put in participation numbers in touch football because it is esentially a non-contact form of Rugby League, and only the strongest can play the more physical version.
- No it isn't because its a seperate sport. The only reason to include participation records from other sports is to give an idea of the contrast between them and hopefuly set up an idea in the readers mind of what stance rugby league has in Australia as a professional sport. Comparing RLs participation numbers to Touchs doesnt do much at all. POds 11:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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- You do not think it is relevant? They are identical sports just without contact. It gives a much clearer indication of participation. Mr nice guy 11:35, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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- What are you trying to do by putting these numbers in? Provide a comparison? Or boost league's numbers? A comparison will do very little, both sports share similar geographics. And the later is just unnacceptable. You can make your changes, but if they dont contribute to the article or if they arejust proping up the league's numbers, then their outa there! POds 14:18, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] State of origin
I cannot believe that people toatally missed SOO (State of Origin) QLD vs NSW. To the person who said there is very little about rugby league in Australia, you are certianly right. Also, although i prefer rugby league, AFL i do think is the more popular sport. AFL has more of a tribal following than RL does. Also, what about more mention of its counterpart RU(Rugby Union)Timmah01 06:20, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Number of Clubs
What does this mean? Number of professional/semi-professional clubs? Clearly, there would be 100s of clubs across the country playing at all levels from Junior grades through to NRL. 203.94.175.66 01:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Oops. That was me. CumberlandsAshes81 01:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
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