Talk:Rubenstein's Revenge
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Rubenstein's Revenge is not a distortion of the 3 ball cascade, as that would imply that the siteswap is 3, but it is not. Though you could technically say that any 3 ball siteswap is a distortion of the 3 ball cascade, doing so negates the value of the phrase "distortion of the 3 ball cascade." To be more more accurate, you could say that Rubenstein's Revenge is a shape distortion of the siteswap 52233, or to be even more accurate, you could say that it is a pattern whose siteswap is 52233 using an underarm throw for the 5, uncrossing and recrossing carries for the 2s and two windmill tosses for the 3s starting with an under the arm throw on the first 3.
I'm going to revise this article to make these points.
Michael Falkov 09:24, 12 January 2008 (MST)
Okay, I went ahead and drastically re-worded things. I'm sure it could still use some improvement, but I think at least its a little bit clearer. Sbacle 05:38, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Rubenstein's is notoriously hard to describe. Perhapses describing the main components of the pattern, then listing the throws step by step would be better. Or we could link to java demo of rubensteins as is done on the Burke's Barrage page. Also, Burke's Barrage is not a distortion of the cascade as two of the balls never alternate hands.
Sbacle 03:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC) Bold text
