Talk:Rubber Soul

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I added that instead of "----". What does anyone think? Is it better, should it be used for album project multiple chronology? gren グレン 20:47, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Brian Wilson's Rubber Soul

Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys has stated many times that hearing Rubber Soul inspired him to write Pet Sounds. Which version of Rubber Soul did he hear that moved him to write Pet Sounds, the US version or the UK version? I'm curious, because the US vs. the UK version of Rubber Soul are very different albums.

I don't know the answer to your question, but the two versions aren't that radically different—four songs were removed and two songs were added (or, more technically, two songs were removed and two songs were replaced). The remaining songs kept the original line-up. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 09:08, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

It says "the deletion of some of the more upbeat tracks ("Drive My Car", "Nowhere Man", "If I Needed Someone", and "What Goes On")." I wouldn't call "Nowhere Man" or "If I Needed Someone" "upbeat" :D But on the point of the two variations of albums, 4 tracks are different out of 14 - that's a fair chunk. Both US and UK versions sound very different, although I don't know why "If I Needed Someone" was omitted if they were aiming for more of a "folk-rock" feel for the US version. Rogerthat ^Talk 09:55, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Album Art

The album art, in the top-right hand corner, says “Capitol”. The image has UK in its name, so this must be wrong!

[edit] Cover story

I just added some story about the album cover. You can rephrase it if you want so. It is not necessarily phrased in the best way, but I thought it was a good idea to have this information on this page.

[edit] "Dexter Stereo" version

The "Dexter Stereo" version of Rubber Soul (a.k.a East Coast version, a.k.a. echo-enhanced version) is not the version included on the Capitol Albums Volume 2 box set. Instead, the box set contains the standard US version. I have edited the page to reflect this information.

[edit] Harpsichord solo

What's this business about it not being a harpsichord? I know it was sped up, what who says that it's not a sped-up harpsichord? —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 01:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

no it's a sped up piano. If you play it at 1/2 the speed you can quite clearly hear a piano. Remember, the sound of an instrument is completely changed when you speed up a recording of it (in this case, the sound's attack and decay are faster), not just the pitch. if it WAS a sped up harpsichord, the sped up version wouldn't sound like a harpsichord because the attack and decay would be even faster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.210.197 (talk) 21:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lyrics Links

The following discussion was posted on Wikipedia's main Beatles discussion page, and appears to also be relevant here:

Are links to lyrics sites appropriate? I have noticed them in some music articles, and I believe they do add value to the listings. I added one at the bottom of the external links section. In the interest of full disclosure, it is a website I maintain. If the interest is positive, I would likely add lyrics links to other musical articles where appropriate. Shadar 19:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

My understanding is that lyrics sites reprint lyrics in violation of copyright, and that's why we're not supposed to link to them. The relevant guideline to check would be Wikipedia:External links, but that page doesn't directly address this question. I'm going to post a question to the discussion page there, and perhaps someone can tell us whether my idea is correct or mistaken. In the latter case, I'd be happy to restore the link myself. -GTBacchus^(talk) 19:40, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I posted my question Wikipedia talk:External links#Lyrics sites here. -GTBacchus^(talk) 19:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

If the decision is made that lyrics sites are inappropriate due to the copyright violation issue, I would like to delete the links I found. As a newbie, it would give me good practice in editting. Is that an appropriate action for a new user, and is there a FAQ on deletion etiquette? Shadar 19:52, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, we received an answer, and it refers us to item #2 at Wikipedia:External links#Restrictions on linking. It comes down to whether the lyrics are actually under copyright or in the public domain, and whether or not the site in question has the copyright holder's permission to publish the lyrics. If you'd like to remove links to lyrics sites that are in violation of our copyright policy, then you're welcome to do so. The best way to avoid offense is probably to mention the External links policy (or WP:EL, as we like to call it) in your edit summary. -GTBacchus^(talk) 20:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I can certainly understand that decision. It turns out I violated the self interest clause anyways, since I posted my own site. I should have recommended the change in talk, and then if someone agreed they could make the change. Thanks for the help with this, GTBacchus. Shadar 17:20, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I notice that there are also links to lyric pages on each of the Wikipedia Beatles album pages. I should have time to fix those tonight. I'll follow the above advice of GTBacchus in mentioning the WP:EL, and refer to this discussion on each album discussion page. InnerRevolution7 02:57, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I have made the above-stated change. InnerRevolution7 03:54, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ROAD ABBEY

This sounds like original research. Why is it there? Zazaban 00:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

-Just because it's original research doesn't mean it's false. Someone even added visual proof. I don't have a wikipedia account so I don't think I can proove this to you, but I found the ROAD ABBEY thing then mucking around in photoimpression. -"Ray"

[edit] John´s harmonium

I´ve juts added the credit for John´s harmonium on "If a needed someone", according to the same sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.40.0.34 (talk) 13:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I was checking the Lewisohn book again, , so I´ve made some changes on the instrumentation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.182.25.16 (talk) 23:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Electric piano on "Michelle"

George Martin has been quoted as saying he arranged the guitar solo for "Michelle", and he told Harrison what to play, then he (Martin) and Lennon sit on the electric piano. They just sit or they played it? If they didn´t played it, why Martin mention the instrument? Is the solo played both in guitar and piano? Actually, the sound of this solo always have sound very particular to my ears. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.40.0.34 (talk) 20:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mal 'Organ' Evans

Evans' contribution (a single A note held rather quietly) can be heard on "You Won't See Me" from about 2:29 to 3:22. The Rubber Soul page claims it is inaudible. It is not. I don't know how to change this.