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Ruanda-Urundi was not a German colony. When the area was in German hands it was simply a part of German East Africa. It was only after that colony was split between Britain and Belgium that the separate colony of Ruanda-Urundi came into being. - SimonP 00:12, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Even so, it was under administration, and the template should be on this article.r9tgokunks 23:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

The Great Lakes region later covered by Ruanda-Urundi was under German control, but the government entity of Ruanda-Urundi was never a German colony. An American equivalent would be labeling West Virginia as a former British colony, despite there being no WV in the colonial period. Also, when German East Africa existed there was essentially no German presence in the far western portion, and it was German territory in name only. - SimonP 01:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I've read otherwise; that the German administration was minimal at first, but in later years highly non-minimal and in fact in some ways responsible for the social stratification and arbitrary separation between Hutus and Tutsi in the two kingdoms. Have to look into the books for references, though, as very little about the pre-1916 administration in these territories is visible to Google (except for that fine list of Colonial heads of Burundi (Urundi), of course.) --Whiske Pete, 20 December 2006