Talk:Royal mottos of Swedish monarchs

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I really cannot see the reason for the alternative translation of "För Sverige - i tiden". As a native Swede, I have never, ever heard the motto being used in this context. Also, if someone wanted to say in Swedish "Carry Sweden through time", he or she would phrase it "För Sverige genom tiden", not "i tiden". So, the alternative translation has to go.

The translation that is shown now has to be wrong, "For Sweden - With the Times" would re-translate not to "i tiden" but to "med tiderna", I have always read "För Sverige - I tiden" as "For Sweden - In this time", "In the time", "In the times" or something like that. And if there hasn't been a statement with a translation from the King. I think it should be changed. even though i wont edit it now. --chandler 05:12, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

"With the times" would, of course, literally translate as "med tiderna", but in the sense in which it generally used (that something is current, up to date, etc.) "med tiderna" would never be used. A phrase such as "Det ligger i tiden" does not have a clear-cut literal translation into English, certainly not "It's in the time" or "It's in this time" or suchlike. The general sense that the motto wishes to convey is of course that the King's reign be responsive to the demands placed on the monarchy in contemporary Sweden. "With the times" conveys that sense, even though the translation isn't literal, nor perfect, for that matter. But I think it should stay for the time being. It is somewhat unfortunate that no official translation exists, however. David ekstrand 23:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't the latin translations be added as well as they were used up until Gustav III? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.225.2.22 (talk) 17:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)