Talk:Royal Norwegian Air Force

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Little Norway was established first at Toronto,the first traininng took place with thed help of Toronto Flying Club at Downsview Airport fall of 1940, before the facilities at Toronto Island Air Port became avaiable later in 1940. The camp was named Little Norway, and was located behind the Maple Leaf stadium at the beginning of Bathurst Street and the West Channel, where the cable ferry to the Island Airport was and still is located,(the cable is gone, but the ferry is still there). In 1942 the training moved the Muskoka Airfield, 250 km north of Toronto, where all training was made and the name Little Norway was then used. In the end of 1944 the training was moved to Winkleigh in England. To my knowledge the Little Norway was NEVER used for Camp Borden, where maybe a few, very few Norwegian were trained. Lars E. Lindgren, last president 451 Norwegian Wing RCAFA.

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[edit] Numbers of operational aircraft

I don't think we should have the ambition to track the number of air planes operational in the Norwegian air force at any given time. If we were to acertain that information accurately it would probably be classified. If not it would be guesswork, original research and most likely unsourced. The Hercules transport planes are undergoing a modernisation programme and new are to be purchased so that number will vary a great deal. The Norwegian defence issues an information pamphlet once a year where these numbers are given. We should use these numbers and settle for updating once a year or if good sources are found in the mean time.Inge 18:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The Norwegian Government has recently instituted a process of rapid procurement of new C-130s after rust was discovered on the precent fleet. The official sources say that the RNoAF has 6 Hercules' operational[1] [2], so I think we should go with that for now.Manxruler 10:30, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Squadron numbers

I'm a bit confused about the squadron-numbers linked to Bodø AFB. I served with the 331/334sqd in 1999, and I can't remember any 332sqd of F-16 fighters there. Also, I can verify that RNoAF operates atleast A, B and C model F-16s from actually having worked on them. I don't remember if I worked on any D-models since there aren't that many two-seaters in the RNoAF in the first place. Bishamon79 18:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

332 sqd was moved from Rygge MAS to Bodø MAS after you worked there - I know, because they tried to send me up there along with them. And your memory is playing a trick on you - RNoAF has no Cs nor Ds, but rather F16AM and F16BM (A and B Midlife update - ie; the avionics and such are updated to be the same as in late model (block 50) Cs and Ds. WegianWarrior 07:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Historie

Tok meg den frihet å slette utsagnet om at hvis P-36 flyene på Kjeller hadde vært operasjonelle, da skulle tøskern fått bank, da. Noen som er svært uenig i dette? Er det noen mening i å komme opp med hvissåfremtifall-utsagn, især når man vet at P-36 fly var håpløst utdatert i en dogfightrolle allerede da de først ble produsert. baetterdoe 19:57, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi. No I don't particularly disagree with removing that sentence. It was not very good in this context. What-ifs rarely are. Still, your conclusion that the P-36s wouldn't have mattered is very weak, consider that the only fighter cover the Germans brought with them on 9 April was Bf 110s, these were much less capable than even the P-36s (nor did the Germans field more than at most a dozen in the Oslo area on the first day of the invasion), remember that the Gloster Gladiators of the Jagervingen did shoot down two of the Bf 110s for the loss of one of their own number. So that doesn't really hold well, if you understand what I'm trying to say. I agree with the removal, not with your dismissal of the value of the P-36s. Oh, and one more thing: This is the English language Wikipedia, if you want to edit in Norwegian, do it at [3] --Manxruler 05:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Furthermore, what your decidedly pessimistic "analysis" of the "dogfighterrolle" qualities of the P-36 totally lacks is an understanding/knowledge of the actual tactical situation of the German aircraft attacking the Oslo region. They were almost out of fuel. The Bf 110s that landed on Fornebu airport 9 April were at the time flying on gas fumes. One does not need much understanding of basic air warfare principles to see that the German fighters did not have the fuel reserves to dogfight P-36s, or even a number of Gloster Gladiators larger than the seven they actually met. The section will be resurrected at a later time, in an improved version. --Manxruler 01:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NH90 / Lynx

The NH90 is still yet to come (delivery has been delayed). And when all have arrived, the Lynx will be removed from service. i therefore don't think both helicopters should be in the infobox, and that the NH90 has to go - until they actually are delivered :-) (and yes, i am norwegian too) Yosh3000 23:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)