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Jamie Ainscough was cough Drop.
Can any one rember Gordon Tallis'? MissCBR600 04:24, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi guys, I think we should use this page to discuss things which we are unsure of, before adding them to the main page. Here's what I'd like to know:
- The name of the horn-based song behind King Wally Otto's introduction? I have heard it used in other places, such as movies.
- Information about how long Roy and HG have been doing their commentary for? (there should probably be a short 'history' section before the 'format' section). I have listened to their call of basically every game since 1996, and beleive they would have been doing it since the early 90s/late 80s.
- Are they actually present at the stadium to do their calls? I'm guessing yes, but have nothing to back this up with.
- Do you think the State of Origin nickname table should go on a separate page, to make this page more concise? I don't have a strong opinion either way.
I realise that much of the information on this article is currently unsupported by sources, as the Five Pillars of Wikipedia prescribe, however this is because specific information on their State of Origin commentary is hard to find online (or offline, as far as I can tell). For information such as player nicknames, I trawled through message boards to read posts users had made just after matches had taken place, asked for users to recount their opinions (especially on this page and, yes, relied on my personal memory. During the 2006 series, I took notes on Roy and HG's call of the game, so quotes such as the "Moggball" and "highest principles on the planet" are verbatim. Though I am a Roy and HG fan, I try to keep this article as close to neutral as possible through my descriptions.
I will work to make the information on this page more verifiable, but I think it is important that we start with all the information we can recount here in the meantime. Stuart mcmillen 07:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] List of uncertain nicknames
Here's some nicknames which I have only partial recollection of. Feel free to add any other to this list (although I'd prefer if you avoid more common ones used across the media like 'Joey Johns', 'Locky Lockyer', 'The Chief' Paul Harrigan, etc), or move entries to the proper list if you know the reason behind their usage.
| New South Wales State of Origin Player Nicknames | ||
|---|---|---|
| Player name | Roy and HG nickname | Reason for nickname |
| Jamie Ainscough | The Cough Drop | **I think they also used to call him "Pure Ainscough" Does anyone have a good memory of this?** |
| Laurie Daley | Old Man Emu | **Am I imagining this? Did Roy and HG used to call Laurie this?** |
| Craig Gower | The Wet Helicopter | **Am I imagining this? Did Roy and HG call Craig this? What is the meaning?** |
| Rod Wishart | ??? | **Pretty sure they used to call him something...was it "Won’t Pass it Wishart" due to his hogging of the ball?** |
| Queensland State of Origin Player Nicknames | ||
|---|---|---|
| Player name | Roy and HG nickname | Reason for nickname |
| Chris Close | Choppey Close | **What is the correct spelling of "Choppey"?** |
| Billy Moore | **Pretty sure they used to call him something...what was it?** | |
Choppy is Close's "ordinary" nickname. Some names come and go, possibly only mentioned very briefly, so anything is possible (e.g. I can remember them discussing whether Wayne Pearce was happy to be called Junior, one alternative suggestion was "Darling Harbour Pearce") Meninga was at one point "Goose" and "Ring Me For A Good Time". Terry Hill was "King Of The Kids"; Terry Lamb, "Tee Hee". Fittler was "About To Cut Loose" for some time. Also going back a bit, they used to describe all referees as a member of the Bamford family, Theo Bamford, Knut Bamford, Thorsten Bamford etc.
The "cough" in Ainscough isn't pronounced like the word "cough", it's pronounced like "Co." Would Roy & HG have got this wrong?
Two-dollar Coit is a combined reference to the $2 coin, and the similarity beteen coin and coit. I think that Dan Stains' nickname is about "stains in his underpants" rather than his headgear, don't you think? And the swamp (as in "at your end of the swamp") would be a reference to the TV show MASH, where the tent that the main characters lived in was nicknamed the Swamp.
[edit] references to referees Jeffes and Jadwat
As someone has previously pointed out, Jadwat is certainly not a fictitious character, although his first grade career was quite short and thus Roy & HG's accolades for him are certainly ironic. Jeffes has a slightly better CV (4 final series, a reserve grade GF, one Origin 1997) but again accolades for his achievements also seem ironic. These are now rectified. --58.106.22.116 09:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] How long have they been doing it?
Doesn't appear in the article anywhere and might be good to mention. It was one of my first questions when I saw the article, as some of the players who they've given nicknames are from past football eras. This surprised me because I thought the Roy & HG commentary was a more recent development. Seems I'm wrong though.--Jeff79 18:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
The first call they did was 1986. I am pretty sure it was the ARL grand final, not the state of origin. So the first state of origin was probably 1987.
- How about mentioning it in the article. Kinda important don't ya think?--Jeff79 03:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
