Talk:Rowing on the River Thames

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[edit] Club list

There is a full list of clubs is on the Thames Regional Rowing Council website. I don't think that every club can be listed on this page. The list could be made into a new separate page with lists of clubs. There are so many clubs in this region of the country. According to the wiki page on the River Thames "There are over 200 clubs on the river, and over 8,000 members of the Amateur Rowing Association (over 40% of its membership)". At the moment it looks ok, but it could well get out of hand. There is a group of users on wikipedia who are against unnecessary lists in articles, to an extent they have a point.

The page List of rowing blades has the rule that clubs can only be listed if they have a wiki page. I think that we need to define a criteria for including a clubs in the list.

Suggestions:

  • clubs have a wiki page
  • clubs are host clubs, ie have their own dedicated boat house (there are many clubs who boat out of other boat houses)
  • clubs have a blade design on wikipedia (I wont make all of them, at least not now)
  • Clubs are notable, have produced famous/successful athletes/results

Obviously there may be people from clubs who want their club to be included on the list so a defined criteria should be made known. if the first suggestion above is used then is someone does want their club included they must make a page about the club.

Jono Watkins (talk) 13:10, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I was afraid you might throw your hands up when I extended the list. The list in the article so far is mainly based on results in the Rowing Almanack - so that probably excludes many smaller ones automatically. Is demonstrable success there a reasonable criterion? However some of the Tideway ones are copied from an empty list in the Champs course article and perhaps they are not so notable. Having a boat house is probably a good measure, although presumably some clubs that boat out of other clubs (probably schools) also need to be included (Hampton used to boat out of Molesey). Organising a regatta is probably also a good indicator. Many of the clubs that do not have their own page yet are mentioned on other pages - either as a red or black link - and so may come in due course. I have deliberately not red-linked any in this article to prevent willy-nilly creation, so the presence of a blade could be a good indicator of value. Article/blade design is a bit C&E and I found blades without articles and vice versa to start with. Advertising the blade is very useful both at events and day to day - (we can identify the boat on Sunbury Lock). I have been waiting for a response before adding about half a dozen schools- Radley, Pangbourne - e.g. Does that help? Motmit (talk) 14:10, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I have and will be continuing to make the Oxford Uni college blades, they are at User:Jonowatkins/Rowing Blades/University Colleges. I don't know for certain how correct they are, they are researched from the club websites' photographs, and I'm not totally familiar with them. Whether all colleges should be included on this page or not is continuing the discussion above. Maybe another new page which is simple a list of rowing clubs should be made? Jono Watkins (talk) 15:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
When I set this up I thought it would be useful to have all the Thames events and clubs in one place (my interest being more from the Thames angle than the rowing angle - and I am working on the lock reaches). At the moment there does not appear to be a loading problem and lots of articles are much longer. Having the blades adds a bit of colour so I hope we can keep it all together. Perhaps we just need to keep an eye on it if more club/college articles are written and need to be linked. Motmit (talk) 16:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)