Talk:Round Rock High School
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[edit] Notability
The article survived AfD, but there was little if any suggestion that the article contained the required citations to that independent sources with significant coverage; rather, it was suggested that such sources exist and can be added. The notability tag is to remind editors that that's not done yet; if you want to help, add some citations to articles about the school, or point out which ones you think qualify if you believe they are already there. Dicklyon 21:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- With all due respect, I disagree with your choice of a tag. The whole point of Articles for deletion is to determine whether topics are notable enough for inclusion. We've already discussed the notability of this school, and the AFD closer determined that the article should be kept. To retain the notability tag will invite people to re-nominate the article for deletion, even though the problem here is not notability, but a lack of citations.
- The tag I suggested more precisely addresses the current problems with this article. Plenty of sources do exist, as I have found in my research. Now, it's just a matter of adding more of that information into the article. I'll try to do what I can, but give me some time to sift through the dozens of newspaper articles so I can decide what's worth mentioning.
- ...Of course, if you still think the topic of this article is non-notable, then you can try contesting the AFD closure, or you can re-nominate this article at some point in the future. But hopefully, I'll be able to dig up enough to convince you otherwise. Zagalejo^^^ 21:57, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- The tag you added was about verifiability of stuff in the article, which is not really the problem. You could add that, too, if you think it's a problem. But if citations to significant coverage are not added, then the notabilty should be challenged again, with another AfD. To avoid that, add the citations. Look at the AfD discussion; plenty of editors agree that the school either is not notable, or the evidence is missing; the fact that more said to keep it doesn't make that problem go away. Dicklyon 22:01, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- I've added a few new sources to the article. One is an article saying that Round Rock was the largest high school in central Texas. The others are a series of articles - including a 536-word piece from the Christian Science Monitor - describing the school's 1994-95 yearbook, which was apparently the first ever released on CD-ROM.
- There are some other things I could talk about, including a few scandals, book bannings, etc., but I don't want to give undue weight to the negative things until I can build a more comprehensive "History" section. Unfortunately I only have access to newspaper articles going back to the late 1980s, so that might be difficult. But hopefully, what I've added should be enough to get over the notability hump. Zagalejo^^^ 01:53, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. I agree that you've now established notability. Dicklyon 02:26, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- The tag you added was about verifiability of stuff in the article, which is not really the problem. You could add that, too, if you think it's a problem. But if citations to significant coverage are not added, then the notabilty should be challenged again, with another AfD. To avoid that, add the citations. Look at the AfD discussion; plenty of editors agree that the school either is not notable, or the evidence is missing; the fact that more said to keep it doesn't make that problem go away. Dicklyon 22:01, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Debate?
Why are we mentioning specific students by name in the section about the debate team? This, to me, seems like a couple of high school students wanted to see their names on Wikipedia and so snuck it into the article. It's a bit self-aggrandizing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.69.217.175 (talk) 21:23, 4 April 2008 (UTC)