User talk:RoseParks

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Thanks for the copyedits Rose. :) It was also nice to see you in RC again. --mav 04:04, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Copyediting

Oops -- I meant "punctuation", not "spelling". Where is my mind? What are the differences between Br and En punctuation? Please answer only the latter. +sj+ 04:11, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Responding on your talk page. Because that "new messages" banner is so cute.

  • The selection and access to copyediting reference books. The Chicago Manual of Style, Garner's Dictionary of Modern American Usage, Fowler's Modern English Usage.

Everyone should get a CMoS. They're $3-$4 used (and who cares if the edition you get is ten years out of dae?). I use Fowler's for american english; it is still considered the final reference for all manner of usage, in some circles. We might identify a group of final-review editors who should be the last ones to edit an article, and require more of them in the way of access to references.

  • In Wikipedia, since we have multiple authors, American and British English are mixed :-). There are major differences between the two in punctuation and spelling!!!

Yes. I think it was decided somewhere that either Am or Br spelling is alright, but it has to be consistent within an article. We can note which is the native tongue of each editor, to properly match up final reviewers with articles.

Please explain about the spelling punctuation -- I am surprised to hear it, and have yet to notice.... Speaking of which, we should probably draft a quick addition to the current Wikipedia:style manual, noting the convention for all kinds of silly things, such as em-dashes (in what character set? substitute -- when necessary, or just a single hyphen?), ellipses (three or four dots at the end of a sentence?), &c. (use an ampersand in &c., write out etc., or either? disallow parentheticals after sentence-ending abbreviations, due to final-stop ambiguities?).

These don't matter much, but it would be nice to start building a structure which could eventually produce a stylistically self-consistent volume.

You note that most of these things are covered in the CMS; excellent. I was just giving examples off the top of my head... there are going to be quirks of the medium which we should work out as they arise, and then there is be the occasional disagreement between references.


  • Copyediting does not seem to need a scale to evaluate articles, just a simple "Yes/No."

Agreed.

  • Copyeditors do not need content knowledge to copyedit an article.
  • Copyediting will be strange with no author to appeal to for disambiguation of content, clarification of content, etc.

I think the Talk: pages are a perfect place to appeal for dab. or clarif. of content. I will regret the absence of prufer's marks, and the inefficiency of having to write out descriptions of twenty small clarifications on a separate page. (:

+sj+ 23:49, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Hello again

Hi Rose, thanks for all the comments. Now I see what you mean about punctuation differences. Perhaps thats why my editor was always more lenient in what kinds of quotation / ending-punctuation styles he would accept in manuscripts! And I am glad to note that we have the first few bites of interest from other editors at m:Copyediting. +sj+ 05:31, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Arbitration Committee

ps - I hope you will vote in the current ArbComm elections. I am vying for one of the open seats, with grand plans to make arbitration an accessible and less ponderous process. +sj+ 05:31, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Meetup in the City?

Hello Rose, a meetup in Manhattan is being planned for the weekend of Nov 13: Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC. I greatly hope you can make it. +sj+ 21:51, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Dec would be cool, even if I'm not there. Yes, there will be a december newsletter!
Perfect; I was hoping you would be around to help out. We should give more positive feedback to the others who have been helping with the first NL; see the comments on m:Talk:Translation requests/NL-1/En:
There is a meetup scheduled for Sunday, December 12 as well. (same link) – Ram-Man (comment) (talk)[[]] 23:28, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Main namespace cleanup

Heya, I've moved RoseParks/Disability Etiquette to User:RoseParks/old-Disability Etiquette. There's some edit history, so perhaps you want to keep it. Otherwise just delete it (or ask an admin to do so). --fvw* 20:28, 2004 Dec 14 (UTC)

[edit] New Quarto editing

Hello rose!

Yes, the copy on the Draft page is ready for general editing and review. Erik knows about the reduction of his long essay, and is unhappy that it had to be reduced but has had a chance to comment on the edited version.

--+sj + 01:16, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] more on WQ/2

You're right, don't do any copyediting until I finish going over the current text... to clean it up a bit. +sj + 04:27, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

In particular, pgs 4 and 6-8 may be rather shorter than they are now, so you might be losing time on those. pgs 1-3 and 5 definitely need copyediting (and compression in size, where possible), which need wait on nothing. +sj +
1 and 2 are done now. Perhaps you could look at 3? I will start on 5. +sj + 04:16, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Main namespace cleanup

In an effort to clean up the main namespace, I've moved your old userpage to User:RoseParks/old, as there's some edit history you might want to keep. Otherwise just delete it. --fvw* 12:15, 2004 Dec 31 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MENTCOM

Thanks for the copy edit. I was surprised to see you were a Nupedian! Redwolf24 (talk) 04:35, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Meetup in NYC in June

Hi, Rose, I noticed you are a New Yorker. If you are interested in coming to a meeting of Wikipedians take a peek at this and please tell any other Wikipedians that you think might be interested in participating about this event. Thanks. Alex756 02:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)