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[edit] I'll Strum, You'll Sing

Are there really any plans for the album "I'll Strut, You'll Sing" to be made with Rod Stewart? I've been hearing about this for years with no apparent progress.

Don't think it is gonna happen since he has been in rehab or touring with the Stones. Not much time to spare inbetween. Kaiketsu 15:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

seven months later ... (sorry for the bold print, but i'm aiming to be visible here!)

i've just changed the prospective title of this still-awaited album in the article - as far as i know the proposed title is the same as the track on Crossexion, which is of course "You Strum and I'll Sing", with no strutting involved. :] if that's incorrect, i apologize, but ... do we have a citable source for whatever the proposed title was/is? thanks Sssoul (talk) 18:08, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Marriages and children?

There is much info about marriages and children of the other 3 members of the Stones, but nothing about Ron. Can someone fill in the blanks? --rogerd 21:04, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

I think the article should be called Ronnie Wood. Even his official website is www.ronniewood.com - Deathrocker 02:49, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

My perception is that he is called Ronnie in Britain and by the press, but generally is known as Ron outside Britain. Kaiketsu 23:37, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

and my perception is that at least in the last decade or so he consistently prefers "Ronnie". i agree with the idea of changing the main title of the article to Ronnie Wood. Sssoul (talk) 13:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I also think the title should be changed to Ronnie Wood. This is how most people refer to him. Aliencrash (talk) 20:10, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Enough guitars!

We don't have to mention every guitar he has been playing throughout his career in the infobox. It's better to create a section instead. One section for his instruments (and instrument setup) and one section for his style of playing. Kaiketsu 15:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Take a look at this, too.. : Ron showing a small collection of guitars just for touring!--leahtwosaints (talk) 01:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Thirst

Just how significant are they? I get minimal ghits for them and the reference here reads like spam. What does anybody else think? BTLizard (talk) 12:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

They aren't. It's just nn trivia and someone trying to get free advertising from an association. It has no place in this article. 156.34.213.177 (talk) 13:26, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] changing one "citation needed" moment

after pondering it a while, i decided to remove the tagged statement about Ronnie being a significant contributor to the Stones - i don't know why it was tagged, but the impression it made on me was "has someone said otherwise?!" sometimes stating something sort of suggests the opposite, you know? and after all the entire article reflects what a major Stone he is. at first i thought of replacing it with the statement that he was made a fully-fledged financial partner in 1990, but that wouldn't fit the "1970s" heading, so i duly moved that to the "recently" section. i hope that's some help. if i find anything more references i can add i will. Sssoul (talk) 15:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] about that Zentgraf website reference ...

http://www.nzentgraf.de/books/tcw/works1.htm is one of the best-researched reference sites about the Stones so i sure hope everyone agrees it's worth citing. the tricky part is that to locate the information about Ronnie's pre-Stones career, you have to go into "site map" then choose "Wood buttons" for each year - i can't figure out a way to make the references refer directly to the "site map" or the "Ronnie 1957-75" index. if someone else can figure out how to do that it would be very worthwhile - thanks! Sssoul (talk) 17:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] some link removal

after consulting with some wiki-admin people i decided to delete some links: one was freezing up firefox, which is just a drag; three were for art galleries that seemed too much like adverts (especially since i added a link to Ronnie's own gallery [Scream], where his artwork can be admired); two (or three? i forget, sorry!) were for music sites that are awfully pop-up laden, and i think Ronnie's official site does a much more elegant job of providing information about his career, recordings, etc. i hope that makes sense to people. Sssoul (talk) 19:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] the "recently" section

this part doesn't read very well - it's too choppy; and considering that it falls under the "career" heading, the parts about Ronnie's struggle with alcoholism and his Top Gear lap time don't really fit, do they. i propose splitting it into two sections for the 1990s and the 2000s and then rearranging/adding to it to make it flow more smoothly as a piece of writing. i can try to see what i can come up with, but if anyone else has any feelings about it, it would be cool to hear from you ... thanks ... Sssoul (talk) 23:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

update: okay, i've followed a few of my own suggestions above, and i think it's an improvement. some points that need more help:

~ the 1980s and 1990s need filling out.

~ should Shine a Light (the film) be mentioned, either in the 2000s or under Books, Films & TV Appearances? on the one hand it's "just another Stones concert film"; on the other hand it seems to be considered "important" as a film ...

~ with all due respect i don't know if 3 tracks on a Beverly Knight album is worth leaving in - after all we've skipped his whole tour with Bo Diddley, as well as miles of guest appearances both on stage and on records.

~ similarly: with all due respect, is Clapton's 1973 Rainbow Concert really worth mentioning? i'm removing the bit about Clapton's heroin addiction - that belongs in the Clapton article.

Sssoul (talk) 13:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Not enough guitars!

if the "notable instruments" section of the infobox is to be restricted to just a couple of particular models, i think the Duesenberg should be eliminated - it's flashy, but he never used it *that* much, and recently it's been "deposed" by other "boutique guitars" like the Versouls and the new Zemaitis models - on the Bigger Bang tour i think he used the Duesenberg about twice in three years. i guess "various boutique guitars" isn't a very informative thing to list, even though Ronnie *is* pretty notable for supporting small companies this way ...

at the same time, is it worth being more specific in the info-box? for example: Zemaitis disc-front and metal-front models - which are certainly the ones he's used the longest and is most strongly "associated with"? and/or the fact that the ESPs he actually uses are equipped with b-benders (which i believe isn't standard-issue for the RW Signature models)?

meanwhile: it would be 100% great to have a section in the article devoted to his guitars. i know some about them, and am willing to work on it, but i don't have access to many citeable references and don't want to put stuff up that's just going to attract a lot of "citation needed" labels. is anyone around who could help out with sources, please and thank you?

and: the youtube link that Leahtwosaints posted in the "enough guitars" section above, with a "guided tour" to Ronnie's Licks Tour guitars, is on Ronnie's official myspace page, which is run by Ronnie's management (yes, i doublechecked and it really is): http://www.myspace.com/ronniewoodofficial it's the last clip under "my interests" on the left ... the clip was produced by rollingstones.com, and i take its presence on Ronnie's myspace page as an indication that they condone its presence on youtube. the clip is interesting, relevant, etc, so is it all right to put it among the "external links"? Sssoul (talk) 10:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] bbc1 "newsbeat" quote

just for the record: the "Ronnie Wood facts" box here has clearly consulted wikipedia: http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_7313000/7313426.stm glad someone's paying attention - other versions of the story called Ronnie a "legendary bassist" 8) Sssoul (talk) 08:41, 30 March 2008 (UTC)