Talk:Ronnie Mitchell

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is part of WikiProject EastEnders, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to the popular BBC soap opera EastEnders on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can choose to edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.

B This article has been rated as B-Class on the quality scale.
(If you rated the article please give a short summary at this page to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses.)
Mid This article has been rated as mid-importance on the importance scale.


Contents

[edit] Parents

The Radio Times says that their parents are Archie and Glenda Mitchell, Archie being Eric's brother. So it seems we were wrong to assume their father was Clive, previously mentioned as Eric's other brother. However, (the esteemed publication) Soaplife stated that Clive was their father - but I swear they get most of their information from here and the Digital Spy forums anyway, so Radio Times are probably right! Any comments? -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 09:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I suggest changing it then although no mention of this Archie has ever been made and he's not on Ben's wall, but then again is Clive? We just assumed it was Clive, so if there's now a source, change it. This means though that Archie needs to be added to all appropriate family sections as well. — AnemoneProjectors (zomg!) 20:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I notice that you changed it right after asking anyway, so no problems :) — AnemoneProjectors (zomg!) 20:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To do

Wassat? Actually there loads of OOU stuff that can be added. I'm sure we could get these up to GA standard. — AnemoneProjectors (?) 13:17, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources for OOU perspective??????

Here are some news articles that may be of interest:

I've even done the citation templates if anyone decides to use them ;) anemoneIprojectors 23:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

How did you find all those? I looked last night and didn't find half of those! Good stuff. Works for Roxy too. anemoneprojectors 18:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I seem to have become an expert source finder since editing on wiki :) Gungadin 19:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Google News wouldn't let me search between 2006 and 1 month ago! Also when trying to find something old I can only ever find pages that require subscription or some kind of payment :( You obviously have other ways and means... (in future let's put sources on talk pages for every article as we find them). anemoneprojectors 20:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Good idea. Have you ever heard of furl? [1] you add it to your browser, and when you go to a page you want to find again, you can furl it by pressing a button. It saves it in your own personal database. It's much better than saving into favourites because it's easier to organise and it archives the page, so you can read it even after it's been deleted by the original provider. Just thought you might find it handy :) Gungadin 22:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good but I think I'll pass on that for now... thanks though ;) anemoneprojectors 23:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Can we make a sandbox subpage connected to here? I dont wanna start a major edit in mainspace if I cant finish, but in a sandbox we can both edit when we can and it wont bodge up the content on the main page.Gungadin 23:48, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, just create talk:Ronnie Mitchell/Sandbox, I guess. anemoneprojectors 23:55, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I wonder if we should do something with these... anemoneprojectors 21:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
lol, yeh we'll get it started in the new year shall we?Gungadin 19:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
We can make it our collaberation of the... season :) anemoneprojectors 22:51, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
  • "She [Ronnie] has a problem with physical violence. Any time she's up against it or feels she's been lied to, she lashes out" - interview with Samantha Janus by Sally Brockway, 26 January 2008 issue of TV Times, entitled "Kiss - and HELL!" -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 12:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
The above is from page 24 (essential for the {{cite journal}} template). anemoneprojectors 14:12, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Room for one more? Sam Janus exclusive anemoneprojectors 15:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

EastEnders' Sam Janus hit in the head, Sam hit during EastEnders filming? anemoneprojectors 14:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
This is a video of ref number 14 (Jonathan Ross interview) - there's some stuff that can be harvested... -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 00:48, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sandbox

(moved from Talk:Ronnie Mitchell/Sandbox) I'm not sure but I though a sandbox was supposed to be a part of user space? I'm not sure if this is allowable on article main space like this? If it is an article being worked out in a sandbox shouldn't it be at User :Gungadin/Sandbox. I will go and see what info I can find on this. I have marked the article as patrolled for now. Sting_au Talk 23:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Also just discovered that Ronnie Mitchell already exists. Shouldn't this page be deleted? Sting_au Talk 23:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
WP:SP says the test page should be on the talk page, here, not the mainspace. But it's allowed. anemoneprojectors 23:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

A comment for the sandbox: when quotes are spliced, the ellipsis should have square brackets around it to show removal of text ([...]). anemoneprojectors 23:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I thought ... did show removal of text. Do you mean if comments have been merged from two separate sources, for example one comment from the sun and one from the mirror? Gungadin 21:26, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
No, like if I was quoting what you said but didn't want to include a bit in the middle, I'd put "Do you mean if comments have been merged [...] from the sun and one from the mirror?" You just have to use [] to show removal of text, otherwise it looks like the ... is part of the original quote. anemoneprojectors 22:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Anything else you can think to add to the rewrite? or shall we merge it in. There might be more to add to reception, but we can add that at any time in mainspace.Gungadin 22:07, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Looks good to me. I say do it! Oh but when you merge it, please link to the sandbox page in your edit summary (pretty essential for GFDL reasons). anemoneprojectors 23:06, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Thing is it's so good, there's no need for an actual storylines section. What'll we do for future storylines?!! anemoneprojectors 23:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree that it will just be repetition to include both, but I tried not to make the character development sections as detailed as I could have, so that it could be more detailed in the storylines bit. But if you want to cut out storylines completely, like we did to Pauline, then we can work on including anything that might be relevant from the storylines section. Then, in future, we can include only notable plot elements in an OOU fashion.Gungadin 23:26, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Just leave it as it is for now with both OOU info and plot. Wait for someone to complain ;) anemoneprojectors 23:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
If we source the plot summary, and extend the reception, we might be able to get GA on this. Should we try? Gungadin 01:17, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
I'd love it if we did... anemoneprojectors 01:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sourcing the plot

If we source the plot, would it matter if all the sources are from the same place? Or should we go for variety? What's On TV has an archive, and obviously the BBC. Any others? anemoneprojectors 22:01, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I dont think it matters. We can always use cite episode too. Also, do you know how we can source the promotional adverts, the individual ones. I cant see a cite advert anywhere. I watched them on youtube to get the quotes, but we cant use that as a source, or can we? Gungadin 22:10, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Ummm I don't think we can. Unless the BBC uploaded them, I guess. Not sure how you'd source an advert otherwise. anemoneprojectors 22:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)