Talk:Ronaldo/Name

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Single name titles

Will anyone mind if a disambiguation note is placed for the other two, Cristiano Ronaldo and Ronaldinho? This single name titles are really polluting the namespace... --Shallot 18:34, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ronaldinho

Just a curiosity: Ronaldo is, in fact, known as Ronaldinho back in Brazil. And Ronaldinho is known as Ronaldinho Gaúcho. --Pinnecco 10:15, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Ronaldinho at World Cup 94

What's the source of this statement in the article: "During World Cup '94, he was given the name "Ronaldinho", to distinguish him from Ronaldão in the squad."? As far as I know he was known as "Ronaldo" during 1994 FIFA World Cup, and the Brazil World Cup 94 squad doesn't have another player with a similar name. --Pkchan 05:59, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

There was really a defender called Ronaldo as well, but he didn't played any match. Brazilian press (mostly TV Globo I would say), gave them the nick names Ronaldinho and Ronaldão (Big Ronaldo and Little Ronaldo, or Ronaldo the Great, Ronaldo the Small). I don't believe the nickname Ronaldinho ever caught outside Brazil. --Abu Badali 15:21, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I seem to remember he was known as Ronaldo in WC '94 but he definitely listed as Ronaldinho in the Umbro Cup in England in 1995.--Ukdan999 00:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

The official squad lists in 1994 listed the two as Ronaldão (the defender) and Ronaldo (our buck-toothed friend). It is at least partly a myth that Brazilians call Ronaldo 'Ronaldinho', his shirt name is always RONALDO for and in Brazil, and Ronaldinho Gaúcho's is always RONALDINHO. They don't change their names willy-and-indeed-nilly, see the two Gilberto's in the 2006 squad. Mjefm 18:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Removing Link

I have removed the ronaldo video website as it refers to christiano Ronaldo.

Disambiguation

Seeing as there are 3 footballers called "Ronaldo": Cristiano Ronaldo, Ronaldo Rodrigues de Jesus and Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima, there should be a disambiguation page. Cokehabit 17:32, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima is by far the most well-known Ronaldo. The English-language press has long developed the scheme to disambiguate them:
And I don't see a need to depart from the way they are commonly described in the English-language press. This translates to the following organisation in Wikipedia:

Why is this page a disambiguation. Ronaldo clearly refers to the Brazillian striker. The others all use alternative full names. josh (talk) 21:16, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I think we're all in agreement. Slumgum | yap | stalk | 22:29, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

There's a problem here.

There needs to be a page called simply "Ronaldo" that is an article about the "Luis Nazario de Lima" one (the "Ronaldo", the one that even americans know of, no offense, but come on that says something) , and on there, there should be that notice at the top that says "see Ronaldo Disambiguation", that leads to the current "Ronaldo" Page. Just practicality, is all.

Requested Move

Ronaldo → Ronaldo (disambiguation) and Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima → Ronaldo - This was recently moved (26 March) without prior poll. Ronaldo Luis is by far the most famous Ronaldo. … --josh (talk) 22:35, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Survey

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  • Support josh (talk) 22:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Support Slumgum | yap | stalk | 23:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Support. Right this moment in time, I guess this would be correct. Skinnyweed 16:34, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Done. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 13:34, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Ronaldo Luíz Nazário de Lima

Shouldn't this article be moved to Ronaldo Luíz Nazário de Lima and Ronaldo will automatically be redirected to it as this is his correct and full name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yonatanh (talk • contribs)

It's generally preferred to use people's common name when titling articles. eg. Pelé  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  13:35, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Like suggested before, I also think "Ronaldo" should redirect to the disambiguation page. This Ronaldo will retire some day, and people will be more interested in reading about Portugese Cristiano_Ronaldo. Medico80 16:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Is there a link to how\why it's "generally preferred"? Yonatanh 21:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I just looked; I don't think there is. There is an article Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people), which should really have a policy on Brazilians, but WP:NC says:Generally, article naming should give priority to what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  03:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Wrong Name

The given name "Ronaldo Luíz" is wrong. The orthography of the name in Portuguese should be either "Luís" (with accute accent, ending with "s") or "Luiz" (no accent, with a "z"), but never "Luíz". (See, for example, the talk page on Lula.) --HYC 14:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


Son

I do not know anything about this but I saw that his son's name is Ronald. I was curious whether it is actually Ronald or if that is just a typo and it is Ronaldo (jr.) Again, I am probably wrong but I was just curious.