Talk:Ronald E. Poelman

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[edit] Youtube link

Regarding linking to the video of the entire talk on Youtube, see HERE:

Knowingly and intentionally directing others to a site that violates copyright has been considered a form of contributory infringement in the United States (Intellectual Reserve v. Utah Lighthouse Ministry). Linking to a page that illegally distributes someone else's work sheds a bad light on Wikipedia and its editors.

So yes, it does implicate WP when we link to Youtube's violations, despite what the editor maintains.

Also from WP:COPY, it says:

Linking to YouTube, Google Video, and similar sites
There is no blanket ban on linking to these sites as long as the links abide by the guidelines on this page (which would be infrequent). See also Wikipedia:Copyrights for the prohibition on linking to pages that violate copyrights.

Bonneville Communications owns the copyright on all LDS Church general conference sermons, and I see nothing on the Youtube site which indicates that it is a legal posting or that Bonneville has given its permission for the posting. It can't be "fair use", as an editor has suggested, because the entire sermon is included in the two videos. "Fair use" involves situations where snippets of material are taken, not the entire work. There is no evidence that Bonneville has "disowned" the original work; Bonneville and the LDS Church are separate legal entities and Bonneville has said nothing that I know of about the original sermon. Snocrates 23:23, 23 January 2008 (UTC)