Talk:Rome, Open City

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Contents 1 Rewrite 2 Availability 3 MPAA Rating? 4 "Atrocious gay stereotypes"

[edit] Rewrite

This article appears to be an essay taken from somewhere (possibly the original, anonymous author's own work), but it is not an encyclopedia essay. It seems more like a copyright violation at first, but I haven't been able to find anything that looks like it on the internet. Needs a major rewrite. --Comics 22:12, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

It is an original extract from a book I am writing and as such is an analytical article about the film placing it within it contextual situation. all references are in the bibliography under The Cinema of Italy. You won't find anything like anywhere else. I agree the whole page needs more on the production details etc. which I shall endeavour to do time permitting. (Mike Walford User 15 Jan 2006. ( sorry haven't got the correct mark up here as yet).

I'm not specifically criticizing the content of the article. The major problem here is that it does not conform to Wikipedia's style guidelines and, as I said, is not written in an encyclopedic format. Wikipedia is not a repository of essays, so this has to be re-worked. Also, references have to be specified in the article itself. –Comics (Talk) 21:36, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Once published, Mike Walford's book can AND should be used as a reference. But for now, it's better for the article to gradually develop from a stub that contains only the basic data points in an easily visible way (i.e., director, year, MPAA rating, etc.) I've completely written the article thus. Robert Happelberg 22:40, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Availability

Where and when did this movie first circulate outside of Italy?

How was it received by the Soviet Union? As the main article describes it to be an apologia for Stalin, and Soviet Russia, was it embraced in that part of the world for that reason, with open arms? Was it black-listed in the United States like Salt of the Earth was?

[edit] MPAA Rating?

No film before 1968 had an MPAA rating - so why is it important to note in the opening paragraph that Open City had no rating? Similarly, are the Finnish, Swedish and British ratings especially notable for this film? It's not Midnight Cowboy, where the rating in combination with the acclaim made it unique. I don't think this info is important enough to constitute the intro. - AKeen 21:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

People will expect to find some information about ratings. If there is no MPAA rating, some other rating must be mentioned to give an idea. Not too much to ask, in my opinion. Anton Mravcek 23:18, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Atrocious gay stereotypes"

Having just watched the film, I saw no gay stereotypes, atrocious or otherwise. A bewildering comment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.208.7 (talk) 03:25, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree. It seemed bizarre to me. While not denying the possibility of atrocious gay stereotyping in this film, seeing it as I did through decidedly white, middle-class, heterosexual etc etc eyes, that comment came rather out of the blue, and I would suggest that if it is to be included in the article, it needs further clarification/qualification - if it is supposed to actually enlighten anyone reading this. Like, who the bloody hell is meant to be the atrocious gay stereotype in this film?! The text I excised is below:

while queer studies points out the "atrocious gay stereotypes" in the film.^[1]

Stopthief (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:31, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the deletion of the "atrocious gay stereotypes" comments. Luigibob (talk) 23:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)