Talk:Romany language standardization

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I'm not so sure about the necessity of this article, since the information it contains can be found also in Romani language article. Maybe in the future, when more info could be gathered, it would be justifiable. Desiphral देसीफ्राल 18:24, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

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I agree that as it stands now, this article is superfluous because it duplicates information in the Romani language article. Of course that information could be removed from the Romani language article or much abbreviated, with a reference to this one. More importantly, I think it would be useful to develop a more complete and informative article about the subject of Romani standardisation. So I suggest this article should not be eliminated, but rather worked on and improved. --A R King 12:18, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I think I have made somewhat of a mild move in that direction, mostly just by reorganizing and Wikifying the contents. I am also going to tag it a bit in the hopes that more editors will come and fix it. Considering the nature of the language, the large number of dialects, etc., this is notable enough to warrant its own article; hopefully the reorganization will help focus efforts. One thing I think it is important to address is the fact that despite the fact that the introductory sentence states that standardization is being pursued in the U.S., there is no mention whatsoever of this in the rest of the article, nor does there appear to be any mentioned of Swedish standardization efforts outside of the intro either. The article's content focuses entirely on European efforts, and almost entirely on Spanish and Eastern-European efforts in particular, with only a vague reference to Great Britain and again, no mention of the efforts in Sweden and the U.S. that are mentioned in the intro. This needs to be addressed. And of course, further sources on the history and practices of the standardizations will be excellent as well. Another important thing I would like to see addressed is whether or not Sarau's standardization is used outside of Romania, as it sounds like it is based only on Romanian regional dialects (I hedged a little, deciding to note that it was "based largely on Eastern European dialects", because that's exactly what it sounds like, but didn't want to be so specific as to say "Romanian", because I have long been under the impression that the dialect or dialects spoken in Romania also had other regional influences such as Hungarian, and I don't know how widely these apparently Romanian textbooks are being deseminated either).

Overall, I think the article is just really in need of a more international scope (as per the intro) and greater detail and specificity. Exactly what groups in which countries and regions are standardizing the language, by what means and methods are they doing it, using which dialects and which spelling systems? Who has adopted or proposed each respective standardization, and where? How successful were these adoptions? How long do these efforts trace back, when and where did they start? The article needs to answer all of these questions before it will go anywhere near Good Article status. (Also, point of interest: the Rosetta Project has some stuff on Romani dialects, and Wikipedia apparently has a version in Romani, which appears to use two different dialects or two different writing systems. Is it in standardized form or forms? If so, which standardized form or forms were adopted for it? This would be of interest, I should think). Runa27 19:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)