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When two orders have the same name, I have not created separate name-tags (e.g. Marist and Marist ( brother ) , preferring instead to allow disambiguation pages to arise. Because of the relatively specific history (e.g. small size and relative obscurity) of some orders, it may well develop that both orders sharing the same name will use a single page. ~ Dpr 01:04, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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[edit] Title

The present title does not work, not in the singular as at present, nor if it was changed to the plural. Either each Christian denomination needs to have a separate article on the subject "orders", or this article ought to be entitled "Christian orders", better: Christian religious orders.

If it is thought to be too much of a waste of space to have sub-headings viz.:

  • Roman Catholic Church
  • Greek Orthodox Church
  • (etc)

perhaps a system can be devised to indicate against the name of the various individual orders listed, in which of the denominations they are represented, e.g.

Augustinians (RC, Luth)
Benedictines, English (RC, Angl)

or:

RC............Luth............................Augustinians
RC...Angl.....................................Benedictines, English
..........................GrkOrth..............?


Portress 00:19, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

    • Each denomination should have it's own article. BTW if this list is ever completed it will be truly huge. The church has over 3,000 congregations etc in existence currently. Williamb 01:09, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
The Orthodox do not have "Orders" as such, even on the model of the non-order "Order of St Benedict". All Orthodox monasteries are responsible to a particular bishop, usually the bishop of the diocese where the monastery is located. There are some exceptions to the geographic rule: there are several monasteries in the Orthodox Church in America which are under the omophorion of that church's Metropolitan, and the monasteries of Mount Athos are responsible to the Ecumenical Patriarch (although most of the practical government of Athos is handled by a council of representatives from twenty of its various monasteries). JHCC 17:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Web Pages

Personally I think that the web pages should be listed under each congregation's article, otherwise it just looks like advertisement on whoever listed them's part. I've noticed most of the ones with a listed homepage or website are of the more conservative sort. This is not an advertising agency. Williamb 07:37, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Membership counts?

I know that simply counting members is not necessarily a measure of importance, but it seems like it would serve as a decent first-pass proxy. I'm thinking of working in current (approximate) memberships into the list—seem reasonable to everyone? If someone else wants to start, here are the few that I've already scraped together (from wiki and outside sources, though if I got it from an outside source I've already worked it into the order's main article ;)

Jesuit almost 20,000
Norbertine 100 monasteries---5,000?
Franciscan OFM --- down from 26,000 in the 60s
Capuchins 11,000 brothers, 1,800 communities.
Carmelites 2,100 men; 700 women in 70 monasteries
Irish Christian Brothers about 1,900
Lazarists about 4,000
Salesians (Don Bosco) more than 17,000 in 1,616 houses
Felicians about 2,000
Poor Clares over 20,000
Trappists 2,500 men, 1,800 women; total of 169 houses
Oblates of Mary Immaculate 4,440 including 580 in formation
Congregation of Holy Cross 1900 priests and brothers

/blahedo (t) 06:30, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Counts for what?

Counts for what? I really don't understand why people are removing stuff with no explanation or discussion. Williamb 06:15, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hospital Sisters of the Mercy of Jesus

There are some orders and societies mentioned in Catholic Encyclopedia, which are not included to the list. For example, Hospital Sisters of the Mercy of Jesus. Maybe they should be included.Ans-mo 13:28, 30 August 2007 (UTC)