Talk:Roma in Central and Eastern Europe

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"In Hungary, 44% of Roma children are in special schools, while 74% of men and 83% of women are unemployed."

Do we have so much special schools ? References ?

And I think we should merge this with Roma society and culture or move the appropiate parts of that article to here Frigo 11:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Roma in Hungary section

I made several additions, and changed the sequence of paragraphs. The only place in which I've significantly removed original text was where the existing text said:

Slightly more than 80% of Roma children complete primary education, but only one third continue studies into the intermediate (secondary) level. This is far lower than the more than 90% proportion of non-Roma children who continue studies at an intermediate level. The situation is made worse by the fact that a large proportion of young Roma are qualified in subjects that provide them only limited chances for employment.

No source was given for that, so going on the sources I've included in the references, I have changed this to:

"[..] Currently, around 90% of Roma children complete primary education. A research of sample schools however suggests that the drop-out rate among Roma is still almost twice as high as among non-Roma.[3]

The share of Roma students entering secondary education has increased greatly, with the percentage of Roma children not pursuing any secondary education dropping from 49% to 15% between 1994 and 1999. But that increase is almost exclusively due to increased enrolment in the lowest levels of education, which provide only limited chances for employment. Whereas almost half the Hungarian secondary school students enrol in vocational secondary schools or comprehensive grammar schools, which provide better chances, only one in five Romani children does so. Moreover, the drop-out rate in secondary schools is significant.[4]

The separation of Roma children into segregated schools and classes is also a problem, and has been on the rise over the past 15 years. Segregated schools are partly the result of "white flight", with non-Roma parents sending their children to schools in neighbouring villages or towns when there are many Roma students in the local school. But Roma children are also frequently placed in segregated classes even within "mixed" schools.[5]"

No-itsme 16:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

The Roma (called cigányok or romák in Hungarian) suffer particular problems in Hungary, for example in the educational system.
Yes, they suffer a lot, and not only in Hungary. In Czech republic, some local mayors were even forced to threaten them with prison, otherwise they wouldn't bother to send their kids to school. School is such an oppressive institution that it should be abolished forever! Centrum99 (talk) 02:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please post a list of prominent Roma

LOL! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.174.47.243 (talk) 02:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] contested statements removed

  • During the Yugoslav wars, Roma were often victim to discrimination and violent attacks from all sides, although relations were friendliest with the Serbs. {{Fact|date=April 2007}}
  • [Inclusion of] surgeon Aleksandar Chirkov {{Fact|date=August 2007}}
  • The history of the Roma in Russia is different from that of Roma in other European countries, where Felipe, 'The Gyp' is accounted king of the Gypsies, in so far as they were treated relatively well {{Fact|date=February 2007}}.
  • With the rise of Russian nationalism and xenophobia in today's Russia, {{Fact|date=February 2008}} Gypsies continue to suffer from discrimination in Russia, despite the profound influence Roma culture has had on Russian culture {{Fact|date=February 2008}} through their music and dance.

Please do not return this information to the article without a citation.--BirgitteSB 16:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)