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[edit] thanks from wp:citations

Thanks for your edits improving wikipedia-namespace citation articles, such as Wikipedia:Embedded citations. Much appreciated.. ∴ here…♠ 00:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] February 2008

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[edit] Skid steer

Hi. You obviously have views on the current skid steer page as a redirect to skid. I might well agree with your reasoning if I knew what it was, but until then I will continue to think that the current redirect is the best option. Before making more changes, could you please explain your views on the Talk:Skid steer page, and give me an opportunity to explain mine. Thanks. --Richard New Forest (talk) 13:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Answered on Talk:Skid steer. --Roger Chrisman (talk) 06:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Engineering vehicle

Discussing the pages Engineering vehicle and Heavy equipment operator

Please don't change the list too much. Though to someone from outside the industry it may not seem so, the construction pages are in good hands by industry professionals. I do appreciate your edits to grammer, spelling and style. Forestry equipment is intentionally on the list, not by mistake. Same with agricultural equipment. We do log before building roads, and use agricultural equipment for construction if warranted. Air-track (machine), if the red link bothers you then remove the hyperlink. Most of this equipment comes directly from the CAT handbook, something of a standard for us heavy equipment managers. This page is here to help construction management students study for the equipment exams. Someone is going to lose points on the question about Air-tracks...Granite07 (talk) 20:29, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Just visited the heavy equipment operator page, "remove erroneous name Front shovel" google "Front shovel". I suppose you are the one who thinks there is only one type of haul truck, the generic "dump truck". There are about eight different haul trucks, again all exam questions and part of a complete article on heavy equipment. Sorry if I seem a bit terse, but it takes longer to create these pages in precious spare time, than you to delete them.Granite07 (talk) 20:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Answered on Talk:Engineering vehicle#Types. --Roger Chrisman (talk) 00:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
That an excavator and front shovel appear to be similar is where the similarity ends. They are used very differently (i.e. excavator loads-out from top of stockpile while shovel loads from bottom), the hydraulics are different and the structural design is different, the same person is not capable of operating both easily. You can not swap excavator and shovel buckets to change the equipment type.
This web link has photos to compare. http://www.cat.com/cda/files/253707/7/AECQ1042-06.pdf You really should put the front shovel back. The trucks is up to you, in my mind they should all be on the same page. Field engineers have a hard enough time as it is and you spreading everything around just makes it that much harder to figure out what a superintendent is talking about when they ask for six belly dump trains. The goal is to replicate the CAT handbook here on wikipedia, this article is the table of contents. Use this website for reference in your future edits. http://www.cat.com/cda/layout?m=37840&x=7, glad to see you have an interest in heavy equipment, if there is anything I can help you with, or you have any more questions, feel free to ask, happy editing.Granite07 (talk) 00:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Roger, I am reverting your edits, please open a discussion on why your edits should be considered, present your logic and likely everyone will agree. As it is now, nobody has a clue what you are doing. There is a large group of people who watch this page and it may take some time for everyone to notice the discussion. We should give it a few weeks to give everyone a chance to comment before making any further changes, OK.Granite07 (talk) 01:01, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I formally request this discussion be held on the article's talk page -- Talk:Engineering vehicle; I will answer specific questions you may ask there. --01:07, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Roger, if you plan on, or have volunteered to review the heavy equipment articles, I have an extra CAT handbook (they give them out for free every year), it is several years old but for your purposes just fine. They have been issuing these several hundred page books for almost 40 years. Give me an address and I will ship it to you. Also found this forum that seems ok http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?p=20763 this looks like an online electronic source http://www.southworthmilton.com/products/PerformanceHandbook/Pages/default.aspx Granite07 (talk) 22:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Granite07, I would love a copy. I have emailed you my mailing address (via your email address in your Wikipedia preferences -- call me if you don't get it: my phone number is on my user page). Thanks! --Roger Chrisman (talk) 22:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Move

Please move Engineering vehicle → Construction equipment WikiDon (talk) 06:13, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

might want to hold on that one, "construction equipment" seems too specific, (bit much power), heavy equipment or something along those lines sounds more general. This equipment is used in mining, forestry and construction to give three examples.
As for the power shovel and front shovel, if you look close you will see the power shovel has cable and pulleys while the front shovel has hydraulics. I understand they look similar, but very different. Additionally one could likely fit in the bucket of the other. Are there any other qualified experts on the topic around other than me? Maybe with this recession more equipment guys will be out of work and will pass their time on Wikipeda.Granite07 (talk) 07:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)