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Ping!

I've emailed you a couple times recently, but I fear my little missives may have gone astray. Awadewit (talk) 01:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Found them! And it wasn't just you! --ROGER DAVIES talk 04:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

RE:Milhist newsletter

As well as the admin stuff, the contest stuff needs to be added. I will tally that up later today and then add it in. I don't mind sorting out despatch for you. Warm regards. Woody (talk) 08:42, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

The newsletter has been forwarded to Cbrown; he should deliver it soon enough. I will sort out chevrons for the contest tommorrow. I think there is a consensus for them to be awarded, I will work it out and list it at the coordinators page tommorrow. Regards. Woody (talk) 19:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I wouldn't award any quite yet. I'm sure there's consensus for awards but not yet for the basis on which they're awarded :) Perhaps the "who" and "why" help will clarify that. --ROGER DAVIES talk 20:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't going to award anything, I was going to list the shortlist at the coordinators page. :) Woody (talk) 21:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
My mistake :) Perfect. --ROGER DAVIES talk 22:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

BCAD Alexandru Şerbănescu

Hi, as assessed by you, I was wondering why this article does not meet the B-Class criteria 1 & 2 (especially 1)? Cheers, --Eurocopter (talk) 15:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Citations, references and reliability of sources basically for B1. And, if the references aren't top notch, we can't judge B2. I'll ask User:Woody to look at it and see what he thinks. --ROGER DAVIES talk 16:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I have to agree with Roger on this one. Those sources are of dubious reliability. The two english ones are basically personal webpages and not official sources. They simply aren't that verifiable with one sourcing itself off a different book. The third Romanian one is a blog. It needs solid, verifiable sources for it to meet the B-class criteria.
On another note, there is a thread open on the coordinator page that could do with some eyes please. Woody (talk) 17:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok, understood and thanks for your quick response. Even if those sources are not reliable and verifiable enough to meet wiki standards, they're the best I could find. Anyway, thanks again! Cheers, --Eurocopter (talk) 19:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I understand the problem. I bump into it all the time with French stuff I'd like to develop. --ROGER DAVIES talk

As an aside, there is discussion of this at WT:MHCOORD#B-class criteria revisited. Please do chip in there. --ROGER DAVIES talk 17:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Interesting current project

This is just a note to let you know about a a project you may be interested in. The main project page is at WP:MMM; it's a class project for a Canadian university. The class is studying Latin American literature, and part of their grade is going to depend on how close they can get their articles to FA status. There are twelve articles, with two or three students working on each.

A completely separate project, the FA team, got involved early on, and we're now in the last couple of weeks of the semester. The students are trying to get the articles in shape to nominate at FAC by 10 April. There's a status section showing who's working on what at the FA team talk page. The tasks that need doing now include copyediting, GA reviews, MOS verification, and any preparation needed for FAC. The professor, jbmurray, is taking responsibility (prior to FAC, at least) of checking that the coverage is broad and that the right academic sources are consulted. If you'd like to get involved, please take a look around and jump in, or ask questions at the FA team talk page.

If you don't have time, no problem -- I'm leaving this note with four or five of the best editors I know, just in case it happens to interest you. The FA team is really enjoying it, and it's a great project that is likely to get us twelve high-quality articles as well as several new Wikipedians. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 21:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid I really don't think I have the time. On top of various commitments here, I have the builders in at home (and, frankly, it's a nightmare). --ROGER DAVIES talk 20:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Admin Favor

Hiya, I had a free moment (I'm waiting for my professor to get back to me) so I logged on here, and while cruising through some long forgetten artciles I created I spotted a problem: a new page titled GDI characters of Command has been created, but that page is an exact copy of the page GDI characters of Command & Conquer. The former page needs to be deleted, as the latter page was the original page (although both pages need help). Can you help? TomStar81 (Talk) 02:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Done. --ROGER DAVIES talk 07:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I apreciate it :) TomStar81 (Talk) 07:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Baha ad-Din ibn Shaddad

I will read a bit on the topic and suggest to nominate it on a different day except you really intended it as a joke. Wandalstouring (talk) 14:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd much appreciate any help you can provide expanding it. He's an interesting guy and the area is underrepresented. --ROGER DAVIES talk 20:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Aw, thanks!

It was a particularly nice surprise since I've been doing lots of copy editing and reviewing lately for the Murder, Madness and Mayhem project - my "other" kind of writing. :) Awadewit (talk) 15:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Good :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 20:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Stress!

Okay, so, end of semester with two final papers and one presentation due? Check. Pending packing up and moving to the other side of town? Check. Annoyingly persistent letters from Interlibrary Loan letting me know that their books are due soon (Friday)? Eek, check. User who is rushing my somewhat-on-hold work over at Stephen Crane? Ugh, check. In short, Rimbaud must take one of two backburners. I was starting to become entangled with his mean, bad self, but at least this will give you some time to look over what's already there and build upon it when you get a chance. :) María (habla conmigo) 17:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Iye. Well, I have an indescribably battered copy of Nichols all marked up with highlighter ready to transcribe so you're right it will give me a chance to catch up! Thanks for all your hard work thus far :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 20:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXV (March 2008)

The March 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 02:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:BCAD

Hello! Well I am having my Mid term exams of the semester from April 7, and currently I am preparing for that. But whenever you think that I have occupied a range for too long and you need to finish the drive, please go ahead and remove my name from there without even asking me. I may be able to finish the Worklist A range in 1 or 2 days. But it is impossible for me to finish the Worklist B range before April 11. And if you have time till April 12 I will finish the range from Worklist B too. --SMS Talk 05:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! --SMS Talk 06:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure, thanks for letting me know. I'll add my name to the applicable space. -MBK004 05:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I am really sorry! I can't finish the range currently occupied by me in Worklist A. Don't have much time. --SMS Talk 22:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, I got back from the wilderness (Devon) 30 mins ago, yes I will take it on, thanks for alerting me. :) Harland1 (t/c) 18:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm extremely sorry about that Roger. I've been too busy last month - lot of things on mind - work, other stuff, etc. Anyway, I've done half of the worklist. I have no problem with you assign another editor to do the list. However, is it ok if i do what i can if i get the time? I'll try and finish the worklist today, so it may be good if you could hold up a bit. I'm sure that should be within your 24 hour line. Thanks. Sniperz11@CS 00:24, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Tag & Assess 2008

Hi. Are you planning a Tag & Assess 2008 at all? If you are and I just cannot find the relevant page, please just give me the link. Thanks, Jhfireboy Talk 10:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC).

DYK

Updated DYK query On 4 April 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Baha ad-Din ibn Shaddad, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bobet 13:29, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Wow, can't believe there was no article on him before. Great job; I'm glad there's people making sure important articles related to the Middle East are written! --Al Ameer son (talk) 15:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Image question

Hey Roger. Don't know if you recognize me, but I'm around the military project once in awhile. My main project at the moment is Landing at Kip's Bay. I just finished a rough draft of the background section and am starting on the actual battle section. Feel free to comment. However, what I'm contacting you about is potential images for the page - I don't really understand a lot of the image policy (even after reading several times; it's very intricate). I did a quick preliminary search for images and discussed on the Talk:Landing at Kip's Bay.

I feel like I'm rambling, and that's probably a result of not even really knowing what my question is. Where does one start to find images for historical events? Can you point out some resources that you've found useful? Thanks for any comments or help you can give. Tan | 39 17:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi! You could try asking in the American Revolutionary War task force. alternatively, you could look in similar articles and see if there's any material that overlaps. On a more general point, this article does need much referencing. Without this, it is unlikely to get very far up the promotion ladder. Good luck! --ROGER DAVIES talk 05:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh, for sure. Every single thing in the current article (and I mean, every single sentence) is fully verifiable from the four "general" references below. As I keep changing it right now, in-line citations would be hard to deal with and keep accurate. It's next on the to-do list, tho. As far as the images go, that's a good idea, I'll ask at the task force. Thanks for your time! Tan | 39 15:29, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Maximian FAC

I've responded to your comments. Geuiwogbil (Talk) 07:00, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Is there anything else I can do? Geuiwogbil (Talk) 07:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Respond here, on the FAC, on the talkpage, wherever. Where should I go from here? Would you be willing to look over the article again if I give the article a full copyedit tomorrow? What do you mean by "style and content"? None of the issues you've raised seem to be concerned with "content". Much thanks for your rapid response to the FAC listing, by the way. Geuiwogbil (Talk) 07:22, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Have you departed, or are you still there? Geuiwogbil (Talk) 07:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Just giving the dog (and myself) some breakfast :) To clarify: style is the way it's written and content is what is written about. Diocletian's age, for instance, was content. Of course, I'll go through it again :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 07:41, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, alright. "Opposes" set my adrenaline flowing, and I get somewhat anxious to have them resolved. I'll give the article a full run-through tomorrow, and submit it to you for re-review. Thanks! Geuiwogbil (Talk) 07:43, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know whether you do this but printing it out and editing on paper is very helpful. You see it all differently somehow which makes it much easier to edit radically. --ROGER DAVIES talk 09:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Factotem has been so kind as to give the article a full copy-edit. Is the article to your satisfaction now? Geuiwogbil (Talk) 20:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough. Geuiwogbil (Talk) 09:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Roger, when you removed the "countryman" (previously "rustic") line, you removed the lead-in to the statement that follows "The panegyrist of 289..." Do you think you could fit back in some sort of "uneducated" line in there? "Rustic" and "countryman" aren't really important as designators, but I think the "uneducated" bit is. Thank you very much for beginning the copyedit, by the way. Geuiwogbil (Talk) 15:19, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Not much in the way of formal education, certainly. Diocletian came from a poor family, not the senatorial aristocracy, and thus didn't enter into the academy or receive tutoring. "At most, he would have acquired the practical skills of a servant and perhaps, if his father was indeed a scribe, an elementary literacy of the type appropriate to his station." (Williams, Diocletian and the Roman Recovery, 22) But Diocletian had a different temperament than his imperial colleague. That's where the whole Jovian/Herculian motif comes into play: Diocletian is the decider, he's the one who manages knotty policy and reigns over affairs, like the celestial Jove. "But he [Diocletian] was also, most importantly, a thinking man, ceaselessly observing and questioning the appearance of things. Though his education was confined to the practical requirements of military organisation, he had a real intellectual need to understand the dangerous, confused world he was grappling with, sparing no pains to analyse the problems in front of him and organise it all into a coherent picture to his own satisfaction." (Williams, Diocletian, 27) Those sort of traits just aren't found in Maximian, as the ignominious end of his career suggests: [1] "One question crossed this author's mind while compiling this essay about Maximianus. Why did Herculius put himself through all of this at the end of his career when it was obvious to everyone that he was not wanted? The best answer was provided by Harold Mattingly and B.H. Warmington who have noted that Maximian was '...[U]neducated and rather stupid.'(OCD,2 s.v. "Maximian," 657)." Geuiwogbil (Talk) 20:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Maximian's been promoted, thanks to your much-appreciated copy-edit. (I only hope that, by reading the diffs, I've improved my own skills enough to avoid the rigmarole next time around.) It looks much tighter now. Thanks! Geuiwogbil (Talk) 05:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad it's promoted. I'm not entirely convinced that rigmarole is the best way to describe an intensive ten-hour copy-edit but I know what you mean :)
To hone your copy-editing and reviewing skills, you might think about joining WikiProject Military history. In addition to having a Classical task force, we also have a Logistics dept for help with sourcing (JSTOR etc), copy-editing, graphics and so forth. We also need informed editors to sign up and help.
--ROGER DAVIES talk 22:41, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Ooh! That looks wonderful. How do I request sources from these guys? Do I just ping them? Cool. Geuiwogbil (Talk) 15:13, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but if you're going to do it regularly or ask for more than a couple, I suggest lubricating the wheels with the odd barnstar to the editors helping out. It's not compulsory but it makes them feel loved and appreciated :)
You may want to join the Classical task force (nag, nag) and push any future articles through the Milhist review system. The A-class review is usually pretty stringent and will make FAC much easier. You can also request specific-purpose copy-edits in the Logistics/Copy-edit, for instance, for help with MoS stuff. You also get a free monthly newsletter and user-box :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 04:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Wow! You're making the whole thing sound so appealing. ;) I'm a pretty poor peer-reviewer, myself. I usually only notice trivial things when I'm reading through other people's articles, like MOS bugs and weak citations. Article structure, prose malfunctions, topic coverage, language use-related commentary is usually beyond me.
I should only push articles through the system if a high proportion of the content is mil-hist related, right? So Maximian would have been a good fit, but Diocletian a poor one, if I'm seeing things correctly. Would Augustus, with its current balance of political and military content, have been a good candidate for a MH peer review? I'm just wondering if I should put Constantine I up for review once I've completed work on it, when it will probably end up with less military content than even Diocletian's article has. I suppose there's no harm in listing the article on both the project-specific and the general peer review (unless I can't do that with the complex templating introduced in the recent PR reform).
You've given me much to think about, Roger. I might very well sign up. Geuiwogbil (Talk) 07:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
To reply in order:
  1. There is no requirement to be a comprehensive reviewer. To give FAC as a parallel, some people focus entirely on their "specialities" Tony on prose; Ealdgyth on refs/cites; Indopug on prose, refs etc. In any case, most of these skills are acquired, not inate :)
  2. If the article is within Milhist's scope, which is pretty broad, it's suitable. Augustus would be fine.
  3. Good. Please do so :))
--ROGER DAVIES talk 06:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
There. Done. Geuiwogbil (Talk) 06:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

{od} By the way, where did you get the username from? I've puzzled over that (in a very minor way) for over a week now.--ROGER DAVIES talk 06:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Umm, I feel kind of embarrassed to say. Back in 2000 I decided to get a Hotmail account, and (being 10) couldn't think of anything suitably clever. So I rolled my knuckles across the keyboard, and came up with something that I suppose looked like Guiwgbl. I didn't want something unpronounceable as a user name, so I added some vowels to come up with Geuiwogbil. I've kept it ever since, partly because I've wanted to keep consistency between my accounts, and partly because I'm just too lazy to do otherwise. It's ugly, but it's functional. If I changed my signature to GWB, would that violate our username policy? Just a thought. ;) Geuiwogbil (Talk) 06:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Outstanding! It's certainly distinctive, I'll grant you that. I wouldn't change it now, not after all it's been through :)
Incidentally, this article would really benefit from a peer review. It's your period-ish; would you mind looking at it for me ?--ROGER DAVIES talk 20:04, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! I've given the article a partial look-over, but haven't yet finished. Thankfully, I have three of the secondary sources listed in the bibliography, so I can probably give the content as good a review as the article's MOS-compliance, wording, and organization. Thanks for directing me to somewhere I can be helpful. :) Geuiwogbil (Talk) 19:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Chief of Staff graphic request

It's great! If you have the time, could you remove the white background? Only if you have time, of course! But, ya, it's really well done! ~ Cheers! Dreamy § 02:41, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help in this matter. ~ Cheers! Dreamy § 21:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Question

If a link in an articles is cited in the references section should it also appear in the external links section? The last link in the external link section for Montana class battleship was cited several times as a source in the article and appears in the references section, so I am inclined to think that the link in the external links section is redundent. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:49, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Ping!

I received an email that said some server hasn't been able to send my latest email to you and that it will keep trying for a week. (I know you said you were having issues.) Curious if you have gotten it - it makes a reference to Pierre Bayle. Thanks! Awadewit (talk) 05:16, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I replied to Part II (did you get that?) but have not seen one referring to Pierre Bayle. I've looked in my spam traps. Try again? --ROGER DAVIES talk 05:56, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I received the writing interview response, but I wasn't sure if you had received my response to your "Update". I have resent it. Awadewit (talk) 06:39, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Got it, and replied :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 07:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

uncontactable image owners

What happens if the owner of the image can not be contacted, but it is available online?--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 09:51, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't know I'm afraid. Images are not my forte. --ROGER DAVIES talk 10:20, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

StormBot

Seeing that you run one of the biggest WikiProjects, I thought the use of StormBot would be easier for you to deliver messages and notifications to all of the project members easily. Drop me a line on my talk page if you would like to use it. STORMTRACKER 94 Go Irish! 20:39, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

BCAD Schedule question.

Roger, Do we have a specific end date for the BCAD Drive? We've got a bunch of ranges that are completed, but we've got a whole bunch of other ones that are sort of half-done, or partially done, and such. Do we have an "official" end date for the drive, or do we just continue until we've assessed everything? Cheers! Cam (Chat) 04:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, sort of ... It's when the A-list is completed. That one is currently the priority. --ROGER DAVIES talk 04:56, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh yeah. I just checked the "articles without the B-class assessment" and saw the "200 of 55,000 articles" sign and thought "We're PROBABLY not going to try and assess all 50,000 of these in THIS drive" Thanks! Cam (Chat) 06:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
[Chuckle!] --ROGER DAVIES talk 06:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Oooh, thanks for the "somethings". They are a welcome edition to the awards-wall. Thanks. Cheers! Cam (Chat) 05:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Haha. Sweet. Incidentally, I just noticed that you've given me every single award I've ever received (just find that kind of odd). Cheers! Cam (Chat) 04:02, 16 April 2008 (UTC) Oh yeah, and do we have a start-date for Tag & Assess 2008 yet?

BCAD

Just noticed you finished off my set of articles! Apologies for not being able to do it myself, on a wikibreak and with family troubles and all. You didn't need to add them to my tally though, you could have claimed them for yourself. You're crediting me with work I didn't do... --SGGH speak! 15:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Is that worklist in the A range still available for adoption. If it is, I'll snap it up and get through it quickly. -MBK004 03:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it is. Range 1601–1800. Thanks very much, --ROGER DAVIES talk 04:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm on it. Thanks. -MBK004 04:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

There are only two ranges on the A worklist still incomplete. Perhaps it is the time to poke those two editors? -MBK004 05:53, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Request help with my user page

Hi Roger,

Sorry for bothering. My User page seems to have a problem with displaying on Internet explorer - all the text seems to go inside the Userbox menu (which is a separate template User:Sniperz11/Userboxes I transclude into the page). I've been unable to find the problem. Could you see if you can find the problem... I think one of the tables isn't closed, which is why the text is such. I commented out the Userbox menu, and that fixed the problem, so I'm sure its a problem on that template. This seems to be a problem only on Internet Explorer.

Thanks a lot, and sorry for the trouble.

Cheers Sniperz11@CS 12:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I think the problem is one of the userboxes in your Groups userset. It may not be working properly.
I hope you don't mind but I've commented it out. After doing this, the userbox sets below it ("Stupid stuff which doesn't matter" etc) and the rest of page display perfectly. I suggest you un-comment "Groups" and then comment out each of the userboxes in it one by one to see which one is breaking it. You will be able to tell because the other group sets will appear/disappear. I hope this helps :)
All the best, --ROGER DAVIES talk 13:23, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, I followed my own advice and tried commenting out user boxes in the Groups userset one by one. The problem is with {{User wikihi}}: once this is commented out the problem goes away. If you want to follow this up, you can ask on the template's talk page. --ROGER DAVIES talk 13:34, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a ton for that... really was a great help, above and beyond the call of duty. Its amazing that you can spare time for small things like this inspite of all the other work you do over here and in RL. I'll see how we can fix the Template:wikihi. I tried, but it only seemed to make it worse... I'll try fiddling around with it a bit more.
Again, thanks a ton. Cheers. Sniperz11@CS 16:48, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Operation Energize Task Forces

I'll take the third slot for Maritime-warfare, National-militaries, and Military-aviation, if you'll accept a non-coordinator (with 22 support votes in the last election), which it sounds like. -MBK004 01:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

My primary objective is to get the coordinators signed up first but you're very welcome to raise it on the page :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 01:55, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm waiting for the school year to end so I can see my updated GPA, if it is at least 2.5 then I will take on a few more task force positions. I do not want to commit my name to TF responisbilities and then bow out do to school, that wouldn't be fair to the contributers or the other corrdinators. TomStar81 (Talk) 01:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Now that almost all of the coordinators have signed up, and I've posted a query which was unanswered, is it alright for me to sign up for a few TFs? -MBK004 06:22, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Withdrawn by nom

Hey, Roger; long day, realize I can use more help, in case you're interested. :-) I don't want everyone doing this, in case they get the steps wrong or walk into a delicate situation, but in clearcut cases where a nominator requests withdrawal, here are the instructions. A situation like today's Rongorongo re-nom is different and involves more steps; the steps in these instructions are only for an active FAC where the nominator clearly requests withdrawal and there are no other reverts/restores needed, as was the case for Rongorongo. If some people get experience with these steps, then it will be easy to move on to the Rongorongos, which involve more of the botification steps. Best regards, and thanks for your kind words today. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 08:20, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, Sandy, will do when the need arises :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 09:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

By the way, yesterday was so busy that I missed your first Tel Aviv comment on my talk page, and didn't see it until your second edit. By all means, please hijack my talk page anytime; responding to what is becoming Village Pump Central is becoming hard, and I appreciate others who help respond to FAC queries there. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

FA-class nomination for 11th New York Volunteer Infantry Regiment now open!

An FA-class nomination for 11th New York Volunteer Infantry Regiment is now open and can be found here if you wish to comment! Thanks! --Daysleeper47 (talk) 19:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Portal:British Army

Hi, I was wondering if you could give this portal I've created a look over because the portal peer review is not very effective as I try to gear towards Featured Portal status? I understand it is no where near ready for featured status but if you can give me a few pointers, I'd be grateful. Thanks, Jhfireboy Talk 21:20, 10 April 2008 (UTC).

First, well done on your efforts so far and your determination to succeed. As an initial step, you may want to look at existing Milhist featured portals and see what extra functionality they have. These are currently:
It may be worthwhile requesting another peer review: this time at Milhist (we'll transclude it for a simultaneous portals peer review). For this peer review, you can ask the main contributors to the Milhist featured portals for their input. In the meantime, I've put messages on the Milhist National Militaries and British task forces pages asking for comment.
--ROGER DAVIES talk 05:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the help - I had no idea where to go from here. I'll put in for another portal peer review and depending on the result from there, I will put it up for Featured Portal nomination. I have worked on this portal almost solely (Carom has helped a little). Thanks again, Jhfireboy Talk 22:41, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
Let me know when you do and I'll make sure it is transcluded here. I'm sure we can get you a more constructive review than last time. I'd prefer too to comment in the context of a review as I have no experience of portals and don't want to wrong-foot you. --ROGER DAVIES talk 22:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
The portal peer review can be found here. Thanks, Jhfireboy Talk 17:31, 14 April 2008 (UTC).

(od) Thanks for the link. Two of the coordinators, Woody and Kirill Lokshin, have devised a way of bringing it under the Milhist umbrella as well so hopefully it will get Milhist AND Portal reviewers. All we need do know is drum up some business for it! One thought might be for you to invite the main contributors to the existing Milhist Featured portals to peer review. A personal request can be difficult to resist :) Good luck and all the best, --ROGER DAVIES talk 18:43, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

The discussion arranging the details for this and similar cases is here. --ROGER DAVIES talk 18:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

List of Medal of Honor recipients

I wanted to let you know that I have submitted List of Medal of Honor recipients to be a Featured List. If you want to take a look and leave a comment please do.--Kumioko (talk) 17:11, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. You've got no shortage of reviewers, I see, and my time is limited so I'll give this one a miss if you don't mind :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 06:41, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

BCAD finish

Sorry about that, I will finish them now, I've had a very busy week, 6 exams and 3 pieces of coursework done last week, but I should have more time now. Harland1 (t/c) 09:18, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to be so slow. :( Harland1 (t/c) 09:21, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
During the gap between this drive and the new one, should I go one assessing the worklist B article or should I leave them? Harland1 (t/c) 09:23, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Think I might take a break then, cool. :) Harland1 (t/c) 09:42, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I have finished my A-list range. :)
Of course :) But if you feel that it was to quick I'll go back and check them, there were only 30 left. Harland1 (t/c) 10:04, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I thought so :)) Harland1 (t/c) 10:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the awards :) Harland1 (t/c) 11:36, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Tel Aviv - "the way forward"

Roger, that sounds great - we have a deal. I think perhaps we should contine the converstation here (although this comment is also on SandyGeorgia's talk page.) There isnt any rush - I think its better to take time to get it right. I'll get onto that comments page and do the charm offensive (is it to all reviewers? and what is the best one to give?) and I might also be very busy over the next few weeks (but I should still be around most days). Sounds great. Thanks. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 10:40, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

It had to be done - you deserve it more than anyone.

Image:BoNM_-_Israel.png The Israeli Barnstar of National Merit
Thanks for your continual committment and assistence to improving articles on Wikipedia and recently to Tel Aviv Flymeoutofhere (talk) 11:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
this WikiAward was given to Roger Davies by Flymeoutofhere (talk) on 11:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Thanks

Not so invisible then...! Thanks for the barnstar Roger, always appreciated. As a sidenote, could you review James Joseph Magennis per the B-Class criteria please? I want to avoid the obvious charges of nepotism. Thanks again. Woody (talk) 12:16, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Pleasure. --ROGER DAVIES talk 12:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Much appreciated once more. Just a wee note: you missed a bit ;) Thanks again. Woody (talk) 12:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
And that is precisely the reason I gave you the barnstar :) Mind you, the new template will adjust that automatically. Have you played with it yet? If not, you ought; it's a major overhaul and reason says there are bound to be glitches. Though knowing Kirill, I expect it will be impeccably bug-free :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 12:37, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Diplomacy skills

All yours: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Anastasius Sinaita SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Refer to instructions above, depending on your abilities :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Green light on the FAC; I'll wait for you to do it, so you can get the practice, Mr. Secretary of State :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:36, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

PS, In case you notice it while you're there, don't withdraw Navenby. It may just need a cooling-off period. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:37, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Maybe you can use your diplomacy skills to give a pep talk here? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I had to do a bit of cleanup, Roger; we have to leave the next FAC prepped for a submission, like this: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Anastasius Sinaita. Check my contribs for the other steps I did. Thanks :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

ah, you put it in your own userspace, so maybe you didn't notice when I added a diff to a complete example in my userspace, at User:SandyGeorgia/sandbox#Withdrawn by nominator FACs. I'm reluctant to have these instructions spread around, because of the risk that changes aren't noticed (I keep up with Gimmetrow as far as the GimmeBot steps, so I had added that change). I'm worried if these instructions are dispersed and not kept in one place, anyone will start withdrawing noms, and perhaps not doing it correctly. I'd rather it stay in only one place (my userspace); you're welcome to edit there to clarify the instructions. By the way, TonytheTiger just requested one be withdrawn so he could start another, that one needs to be archived with opposes; a bit concerned that FAC not be used as peer review. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:22, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I can do that (after I finish my taxes, ack!!), but it's likely to make me regret I ever typed them up, because other people may start withdrawing FACs without using the necessary discretion. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I must finish my taxes (don't know if you know about April 15 in the USA :-) Will focus on this later. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Looks like a busy day; I must go do my taxes !! Did I mention the TonytheTiger nom that needs to be archived? Also, Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/2007-2008 world food price crisis. Good practice for you; three in one day. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:51, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk page at the food crisis still needs attention :-) There's a strange "withdrawn" at the top of the page, and the archived fac link should be added to a talk page section for future ref. OK, now that you've got that part down ... the next step (in case you're looking for more work :-) is to regularly check Category:Wikipedia featured article candidates to make sure it's synced with the FAC page. You'll often find old, straggling FAC pages that were never correctly submitted, that need to be either moved to archive or maintenance deleted, depending on the circumstances. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm not panicing; I'm watching closely with great pleasure and a huge sigh of relief that I have a trained helper :-) This trivial, time-consuming stuff is a killer. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:36, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
And the Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Evolution of mammals looks a little off too. And now, I must not only call the accountant about MY taxes, I gotta go talk with the builders about where exactly to put the foundation on the house, where to put the well, and how NOT to put all those things into the horse pastures! Ealdgyth - Talk 16:19, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, here's a transcludable page, incorporating your clarifications:

User:SandyGeorgia/Withdrawn FAC SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Dear Mr. Secretary of State:

This is an ongoing issue at FAC and FAR; at least three that I can remember. May I leave it in your capable hands? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Heads up: I left a note at User talk:Ceoil re Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Third of May 1808. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:42, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Resolved. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:15, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Falls under dipolomacy: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Apollo 9. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:16, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

On Stress (physics), if I had gotten there before Mojska, I would have just deleted the malformed FAC commentary from the FAC page, and left a note for the nominator. But Mojska created the FAC page, so now the extra work of notifying, moving to archive ... etc. Should be treated as a withdraw, not a fail ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I am new and not sure how to handle this

Thank you for the welcome! I do have a question, and hope I am doing the right thing asking you. I have mainly been working on Operation Storm, but became involved with an entry about an artifact related to WWII in Croatia because it was threatened with deletion. I have run into something I do really do not know how to handle, now that I have finally figured out what is going on. I hope you can guide me.

One editor has repeatedly edited this entry to include very inappropriate humour (such as making fun of the victims of one of the most notorious WWII death camps). This same editor has also deleted reputable sources from the entry and then immediately placed it on the RFChist claiming "external links are very serb ultranationalist POV – The issue is in fact whether the content of the article is not just a rumour spread by nationalists." I have patiently tried to participate in a constructive dialogue, but I see no point in continuing if such disruption is allowed to carry on. Civilaffairs (talk) 17:27, 15 April 2008 (UTC)Civilaffairs

I sympathise: we have all had to deal with dicks at some time and it's never pleasant. First, it's best you stick strictly to policy and avoid becoming involved in any edit wars. Second, you can always invite other editors to comment, with a message say on the talk pages of any appropriate task forces. Third, and as a last resort, you can request administrator intervention at WP:AN/I, which can result in user blocks or page protection. Finally, and while this might seem like cowardice, it isn't, you can simply walk away from it and find something more enjoyable to invest your energies in. These things have a habit of blowing themselves out after a while and it's the nature of a wiki that sooner or later other editors will come along to fix the problem. I hope this helps, --ROGER DAVIES talk 22:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your wise advice. It does help. This entry does not seem to be part of any Wikiproject, so I am not sure how to go about asking other editors to comment. This editor seems tireless in reverting or snipping my edits to Operation Storm, but I let it be. I may take your advice about walking away, even though it seems a shame to allow one POV to take over a whole cluster of entries. Again, my gratitude for your kind help. Civilaffairs (talk) 00:44, 16 April 2008 (UTC)Civilaffairs

hi

oh oops! sorry, didn't know i couldn't do that! Samian

Portal:British Army

Hey

that not a problem. Will get to it as soon as possible. Hossen27 (talk) 01:40, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

My difficulty this week is with a spotty internet connection. That being said, I'm always willing to help another project portal peer review. Put me on the "doesn't consider such contact from a project member as canvassing" list. Frankly, he's pretty optimistic if he thinks we have time to put in his portal edits for him, but I'm very glad to talk about the things FP review was demanding. User:Cirt had me run virtual circles around the portal backwards, but his demands made my work much stronger. If I'd had a more engaging PoPR, my FPprocess would have been much easier. BusterD public (talk) 20:24, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: A big favour and Portal: British Army

It's no problem. I have changed the name on two of the sigs. As for the review, I'll have a look at the Portal and leave some comments. Kyriakos (talk) 07:03, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

The Bhoys from Seville

Yes ill withdraw but i dont know how?? Bobo6balde66 (talk) 16:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Roger, note [2] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

MHA-BCAD

Thanks for the award. :)   jj137 (talk) 23:36, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Deleted page

Hello! I was checking the page (Talal el Khoury) to add more information and i saw that it is on deleting process. Could you please tell me why is it on deleting process? the discussions was not pretty much convincing. You were right there was no sources YET but i guess this does not put it into deleting especially that it would be a role model for so many professionals to participate in wikipedia and i was intending to expand the page and post a lot of information regarding Architecture and Urban planning. I request reconsidering your decision. Should you need any more information, i'll be glad to answer all your questions. This page is important to a lot of people and we wish to keep it published. P.S. kindly activate my account (tekhoury) again to be able to follow and participate to the discussions. 19 April 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.96.227.70 (talk • contribs) 08:59, 19 April 2008

I've no idea which page you're asking about as Talal el Khoury doesn't exist as an article and has never been deleted. What's more, there is no account for User:tekhoury. --ROGER DAVIES talk 08:52, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou

Just logged on to do some more Navenby tweaking - to find your note! Great start to the weekend.... and it is finally sunny too! Thankyou so much for the well-timed message which persuaded me to keep going at FAC. I didn't realise it would be such hard work, so many views - and so many changes - in such a short time. Actually, quite fun in the end as well, as learned a lot too. Think it will be a while before trying FAC again, I need to do some of my proper work first!--seahamlass 07:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Adminship

Hello Roger Davies, this is Surfer-boy94 and you being an administrator, what chance would you say that I would have of becoming an administrator if i requested for adminship? I have made lots of constructive edits to wikipedia recently and can you please tell me if I have any chance of becoming one, because I don't want to request and be dissapointed with the results. Thanks, Surfer-boy94. Surfer-Boy94 (talk) 19 April 2008 15:06 (UTC)

Thanks for the enquiry. Areas which are likely to be problematic at WP:RfA are:
  • Too few edits (just under a thousand). To be safe, you need 4000 or more.
  • Many RfA regulars like to see evidence of quality editing. (Participication in A-class or FA articles.)
  • Many RfA regulars like to see evidence of vandal-fighting.
  • Many RfA editors like to see a few barnstars; it's sort of proof of being able to collaborate.
  • Very patchy edit summaries (about 50%). Edit summaries are useful for others to see what you've been up to. (Turn on "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" in the "Editing" tab of "My preferences". It will remind you to leave one every time you save.)
When you can put ticks in more of these boxes, consider editor review. Other editors will trawl through your contributions and tell you where scope of improvement lies.
Then, you might consider getting an admin coach to help you with all the technical stuff.
All the best, --ROGER DAVIES talk 15:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the information, I will look through it in the morning, as it is midnight in Australia at the moment, so I will do it in the morning. Thanks for helping me out. :P Surfer-boy94 (talk) 15:56, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I did actually archive my talk page, however an editor reverted it saying that it was not allowed. Surfer-boy94 (talk) 15:58, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Of course it's allowed but not to hide current warnings and block templates :) Re-do it. --ROGER DAVIES talk 15:59, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Ping!

I sent you a fascinating email. :) Awadewit (talk) 16:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Late night musings have been sent your way. Awadewit (talk) 05:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Pied-noir

Thanks so much for the detailed review. Also, I appreciate the offer to examine the article before its second nomination -- be careful...I just may take you up on that! Talk to you soon. Lazulilasher (talk) 17:21, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Theatre

I would appriciate it if you would draft a foraml guideline counter-proposal that you would like to see passed.Broadweighbabe (talk) 06:01, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Roger you didn't finish your last message. Did you know?Broadweighbabe (talk) 07:28, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Done so now :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 07:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

The Third of May 1808

Hi Rodger, if you get a chance can you revisit this FAC. There has been a lot of work since you commented. Thanks. Ceoil (talk) 11:16, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'd love too but I'll leave it 24 hours or so to see what further changes Noetica comes up with. --ROGER DAVIES talk 20:27, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello again Rodger. Its emabrrasing to say this again, but I promise the article has been fully copty edited this time. Regardless of what I think, here it is again; and if you want give it both barrels on FAC, fine; we want it main page by The Third of May 2008, and any indignity in between; phewf. Ceoil (talk) 23:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

1995 Japanese Grand Prix

Hi Roger. Thanks for your comment at WT:FAC about WikiProject's at FAC's. I appreciate it. I'll give you a knock when the article gets back to FAC. Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 12:53, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Apollo 9

Hi Rodger. I am very new to this site and I'm intrigued by the story of the Apollo Program. I thought that anyone could just shine a spotlight on articles, but it looks you really are after the cream of the crop. My mistake in doing a "Drive By". Thank you though for respectfully adressing your concern rather than forcefully attacking. I am interested though in working with the article to bring it to standards. Hugs and Heart pounds Bender razz (talk) 19:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

T&A '08 worklists

The worklists are now ready; we have ~31,000 articles in 176 lists. Please let me know when I should start uploading them. Kirill 00:03, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep, that sounds fine. Thanks! Kirill 01:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
It's been renamed to "new section", apparently. That threw me off for a time as well. :-) Kirill 01:54, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
There's a way to change it back under Preferences/Gadgets, incidentally. Kirill 01:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the worklists will have a transclusion spot for instructions at the top. I should have the first set uploaded this evening, assuming nothing else comes up. Kirill 13:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. As far as short forms versus long forms goes, I have no problem with either; my only question would be whether the "Bn" forms might be excessively cryptic to someone seeing them in edit mode for the first time. Kirill 04:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I've uploaded the first 50 worklists. Glancing through them, there are a fair number of redirects present; it may be worth adding an explicit note to the instructions to the effect that redirects should not be tagged or assessed. Kirill 04:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I'll look into adding a link to the instructions somewhere in the template. I'm not sure what a good position for it might be; there isn't all that much free visual space at the moment.
As far as list B is concerned, I can upload them anytime you want, as the lists are all generated anyways. Kirill 05:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok, how about that? Kirill 05:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
You can go ahead and create the table whenever you're ready then; I'll try to upload the worklists within a day or so of that.
Protecting the banner is probably overkill in practical terms, but I suppose it couldn't really hurt. Kirill 05:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok, will do. As far as the destination of my travel goes, I did leave a helpful link in my message. ;-) Kirill 07:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it is fairly nice (although I'm spending most of my time indoors working). Cheers! :-) Kirill 08:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

The B worklists are now uploaded. :-) Kirill 07:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. I'd say that some careful encouragement to follow the instructions fully is probably a good idea; but we shouldn't come down too hard on him, I think. We need all the contributors we can get, at this point. Kirill 17:08, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Some Fix needed?

Whats wrong with this banner, I added B-class checklist and filled it but its not appearing at this talk page. Can you please look at it and do some fix if needed. Thanks! --SMS Talk 07:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Nothing's wrong with it :) The template now only shows the checklist for Start and B-class articles. As this is a Stub, the checklist doesn't appear. (If you change the class from Stub to Start and "preview", you'll see how it works.) It's a bit strange at first but you'll soon get used to it. See WT:MILHIST#New WPMILHIST template code for more information on this.
  • Second, outstanding work at Frontier Force Regiment. You've improved it immensely. Well done!
--ROGER DAVIES talk 09:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for updating about the talk page template template. And can I propose the article Frontier Force Regiment for an upper rating, I mean is it worth to be proposed for GA or even more. --SMS Talk 19:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Top 10 Milhist articles

Hi Roger, the discussion over improving most-viewed articles seems to have petered out on the main talk page. Would you mind, if necessary after doing the appropriate consultations with the coordinators, to update us there what the 'decided policy' will be? Buckshot06 (talk) 21:02, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

List of African American Medal of Honor recipients

I have been working on getting the Medal of Honor lists up to Featured article status and I was hoping you might glance at this page and give me a few comments about what you think we need to do to get this up to featured status. It seems very close and I wanted to ask you before I submitted it. I am also close to getting several others ready. They are the Philippine-American War, World War I, the Korean War and World War II. They aren't ready yet but now that my RFA has died a glorious death in battle I have more free time and I am going to start tackling these. My goal is to get all of the Medal of Honor lists to FA in the next few months and any assistance would be greatly appreciated.--Kumioko (talk) 21:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Too much on at the moment, I'm afraid, and featured lists aren't really my thing? Peer review? --ROGER DAVIES talk 05:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Tag and Assess '08

Thanks for the message. What happens to the unfinished lists on the old BCAD page? Will these be included in this drive or will they be dropped? :) Harland1 (t/c) 12:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Good :) Harland1 (t/c) 12:50, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Am I being thick (or a total newbie)? Are we meant to add the B class checklist to B and start class articles which do not have it? Because I randomly looked through some done ones on another list to check I was doing it right and they weren't added. Eh? Harland1 (t/c) 05:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

B-class articles should have the B-class checklist completed, as otherwise the template will not recognise them B-class. For, start-class only do them if it looks like the articles fails on one or two points. I hope this helps, --ROGER DAVIES talk 05:42, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
So if a start-class article fails on 3/4 points I don't fill out the list. I've been wasting my time :(.( Thanks, (sorry for being a pest) :) Harland1 (t/c) 05:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Nah, it's not a complete waste of time cos you're saving someone the work later :) And no you're not being a pest :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 05:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Your input is requested....

So, I have been speaking with my collaborator User:Frania_Wisniewska about the Pied-Noir article. There were two points upon which I was hoping you could provide input. First, he and I both think the article should be moved to Pied-Noir rather than Pied-noir and second, because all origins of the term "Pied-Noir" appear to be anecdotal and murky at best, we were considering removing that entire section. What do you think? Lazulilasher (talk) 13:36, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I just noticed your warning about not taking on any more reviews above. SO, no worries if you are needed elsewhere. Lazulilasher (talk) 13:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
You could try Le Robert historique for the etymology - I think it's online somewhere - and base the article name on how it's listed there? --ROGER DAVIES talk 05:58, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: MILHIST T&A 08

Sorry mate, I can't. I have exams all through May. I'd love to if I can, but I can't. Thanks for the invitation anyway. Regards, weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 20:04, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

This one runs until 4 July so I hope you can squeeze some in. The more the merrier as they say. --ROGER DAVIES talk 07:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

May the slaughter commence???

It's still only the 24th, but if I go ahead and start T&A 2008, will it count?--Bedford 06:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Whoops! I'll edit that to the 24th.
Yes. But only if you sign up as an available admin in WP:MHL#Administrators :))))))
Incidentally, please let me if the instructions are less than crystal clear. They're no longer geared at total newbies.
--ROGER DAVIES talk 06:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, I added myself. However, I wish my User name was Zzyxx, not something so early in the alphabet. I'll be getting all the requests.--Bedford 07:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

<Old flannel mode on>I can't think of a better person to deal with them :)) </Old flannel mode> --ROGER DAVIES talk 07:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

BCAD

Has the primate being disqualified? Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:09, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

No offense taken at all. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:24, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

173rd

I think that only there are only about 20% of the footnotes from Army websites. Isn't ok to simply get the awards list from the army? Since the army POV is the relevant one for deciding who gets awards.... For the VN stuff, I might just cull some of the self-reffed stuff because those battles seem pretty obscure anyway. If Ed doesn't mind. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:24, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Is the prose ok? I was the attempted copyeditor....Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I'll have another look, --ROGER DAVIES talk 05:43, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

User's Thanks

The Working Man's Barnstar
For your diligent & continual work in organizing two Assessment Drives in the months of March & April alone. It is greatly appreciated! Cheers! Cam (Chat) 06:06, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


Thank you very much for the barnstar. They are always very welcome, and very encouraging. It was much appreciated, --ROGER DAVIES talk 07:29, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Saving the universe?

Hi ROGER,

I had two favors to ask? The universe article, on which I've worked a fair amount, got moved to The Theory of The Universe (most unwelcomely) a little while ago; could you please roll back that move? It was done by someone new, Anubad95, whose other edits seem suspect as well. I'm sorry to trouble you with it, but most of my other administrator friends are already asleep, I think.

The second favor might be more taxing to you, however, and I'll totally understand if you can't spare the time. I've been trying to save the action potential article, and it might be approaching the point where I'm not embarrassed to show it to my friends and those I respect. Would you be so kind as to give me your honest opinion? It's rather technical, but I'm hoping that it will be relatively clear if you read the article in order. Many, many thanks if you can, Willow (talk) 06:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

T&A08

Sorry Roger, wont be able to make it this time. Too busy with work here. Maybe next time. Thanks for informing. Sniperz11@CS 14:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

ED: The Return

Hi, Roger, how goes it with you? If I can pull you away from shiny swords and stratagems for just a moment, someone brought an old, neglected Dickinson-related article up on the talk page: Identification of Emily Dickinson poems. I also see there's a page linked from that article called List of Emily Dickinson poems. I had no idea they even existed! Are they necessary? It seems fairly repetitive to me since ED is now FA and there's WikiSource, etc. Any thoughts on the matter would be welcome -- best to put them at the article's talk page, I would think. Take care, María (habla conmigo) 18:37, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the congrats and well wishes and sundry, dear Rodge. I am still suffering from Dickinson fatigue, so I'm not rushing to delete/merge anything, either. As the articles in question haven't really been touched in a few years, I doubt it's urgent. Rimbaud is on my backest of backburners at the moment, as well; in preparation for Big Move 2008, I've had to return all of my library books -- all twenty-seven of them. I have a sofa! Who knew? Soon I'll be living in Floridian suburbia, so no chance of Victorian anything, let alone decay. Instead I get palmettos (both the trees and the bugs) and houses the color of after dinner mints. Ahh, home. :) María (habla conmigo) 14:58, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for saving the universe!

Apparently there is no barnstar for this. How strange. I just wanted you to know that your efforts are appreciated, anyway :-) SHEFFIELDSTEELTALK 21:34, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Pity! That'd make a once-in-a-lifetime citation :))) --ROGER DAVIES talk 21:44, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

 !!!

Did you see User:WillowW? Awadewit (talk) 06:59, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh dear. --ROGER DAVIES talk 07:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
It's been a bad wiki-day for me. That and this. Awadewit (talk) 07:23, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
I read some of that earlier. Strange business. Now don't go overdoing it. We don't want you hors de combat as well. --ROGER DAVIES talk 07:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Might take a little break myself after the FAC. It's finals right now. I could do with a little down time, I think. Just light editing. :) Awadewit (talk) 07:29, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Pagh! I know you and also that your notion of, um, light-editing would kill most mortals :) Better to just curl up in a corner with Tristam Shandy and Don Quixote. (Have you tried Proust? Very relaxing, especially with lime leaf tea and sweet madeleines.) --ROGER DAVIES talk 07:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Frontier Force Regiment

Hello! Can you guide me what further improvements can be done to this article or can I propose it for any higher rating? Thanks! --SMS Talk 19:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for guiding me, it wasn't late as I know you have many other important responsibilities to accomplish and I keep on disturbing you now and then(:P). I will approach these reviewers as soon as possible and will wait till one or more of them are free. Thanks again! --SMS Talk 11:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Forgot to ask one thing, that should I go for a formal review this time at WP:MHR, and ask one of these reviewers to review it there or should it be again an informal review? --SMS Talk 11:31, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok! Thanks! --SMS Talk 11:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Tag and assess

Hmmm, we don't want to isolate him, his contributions are really appreciated. Perhaps just keep an eye on him and make sure he is doing it correctly. I will go through the worklists and cut some of the redundant stuff out. Incidentally there is a question on the talkpage about whether we should be adding the B-Class tags. I presume it isn't clear from the instructions that we should be, we are meant to be I presume? Regards. Woody (talk) 17:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps a gentle nudge asking him to revisit all the old ones paying particular attention to task forces? At the rate he is assessing them I doubt he is checking the article, just the talkpage. That is why they are missing some task forces. As an indication, the first batch I checked, I could add task forces to half of them. Woody (talk) 17:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

FAC miscellany

Sorry I didn't know. You are right though; I wouldn't be familiar with the sources and able to answer most questions well. Although I have actualy worked on the article. It's just that I have a dynamic IP (it keeps changing), so it appears as though I haven't. 86.29.141.77 (talk) 19:40, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the swift response :) If I can trouble you to confirm withdrawal on the nomination page, I can do the necessary admin stuff. Thanks for your time, --ROGER DAVIES talk 19:46, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't suppose you know when/if the semi-protecton will expire for London? 86.29.141.77 (talk) 19:53, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

It's permanent I'm afraid. It looks like there have been high levels of vandalism whenever it's unprotected for long. --ROGER DAVIES talk 20:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
A note: [3] I'll explain some day when I have more time :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Whoops, forgot to move the FAC to /archive1. Thanks for that. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 19:42, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Roger, a new trick, see here. When there was already a previous FAC, you only have to revert, don't have to go through all the other rigamarol. Experienced nominators can run more than one at a time, I removed this because Lime hasn't yet gotten one through and has another one up. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

All Blacks versus France at rugby union

I will have a look over it. Thanks a lot for your help. I'll let you know when it goes to FAC. - Shudde talk 12:13, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Feedback

No problem. ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ Drop me a line§ 18:05, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I will inform you on when I'm all caught up. :) Cheers, ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ Drop me a line§ 03:30, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Caught up with all of them in Worklist A. ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ Drop me a line§ 03:47, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
No, I don't think so. Detailed remarks to follow :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 04:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I've gone through just a few of the ranges at random in Worklist A and I'm still finding problems. The problem is mostly missing task forces, including many with none at all. The basic rule is that every article needs at least one task force.
Re: 7201–7400
Re: 8401–8600
  • Chunk of castle-related articles are without TFs. (Fortifications=y and [country]=y, plus what ever period is appropriate).
  • Castilian Civil War wasn't tagged for the Spanish TF. I fixed it.
  • Castel Nuovo wasn't tagged for TFs at all (Fortifications=y|Italian=y|Middle-Ages=y) - I fixed it.
Re: 9601–9800
  • Large number of articles about people called Eric ... Erich ... Ernest ... and Ernst .... mostly not tagged for biography=y
No one doubts your commitment and enthusiasm but you need to take this more carefully and more slowly. Our best, most experienced, assessors take about 90-100 minutes to work methodically through a 200-article range. All the best, --ROGER DAVIES talk 17:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

page link & move trouble

hello Roger. I'm having a few troubles with archiving the "old peer review" for Battle of Verrieres Ridge, as I'm wanting to request a new peer review. I've done the traditional "move the page" bit for archiving the older peer reviews, except it hasn't worked. Could you figure out how to permanently archive the page so that the "new peer review" doesn't simply redirect to the archive? Thanks. Cheers! Cam (Chat) 23:45, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, nevermind. I figured out how to fix it. Cheers! Cam (Chat) 23:58, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Battle of Marion

Hey Roger. I noticed you closed the A-class review on this article a while ago, and since then, I've brought it up to speed, and I've nominated it for GA, and I was wondering if you would look it over for me. Cheers, ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ Drop me a line§ 02:44, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

HMS Cardiff Featured Article Candidate

Hello, this is a generic message, as a contributor to a previous review of HMS Cardiff, you may be interested to know that I plan to submit her for an FA review. Would you mind taking a quick look at the article and letting me know if you think it's ok, would be muchly appricated, cheers. Ryan4314 (talk) 13:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

T & A

Sure thing! I had noticed we are running low on active coords at the moment, that and the rising number of admins burning out at the moment. Yep, sign me up. Can I ask, are we explicitly asking for the B-Class assessment to be added? Woody (talk) 17:35, 30 April 2008 (UTC)