Talk:Roger Wright
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How does this entry conform with Wikipedia's requirement for notability in a bio entry?
90.192.239.60 13:19, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I think it conforms very nicely indeed. To wit:
Primary criterion
All subjects of Wikipedia articles should meet the central notability criterion for inclusion, summarized here:
- The person has been a primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person.1
- This criterion includes published works which meet the reliable source guidelines in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, scholarly papers, and television documentaries2 except for the following:
- Works carrying merely trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that just mention the person in passing, telephone directory listings, or simple records of births and deaths.3
—From Wikipedia:Notability
A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, hip hop crew, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:
- It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable.1
- This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, and television documentaries 2 except for the following:
- Media reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician/ensemble talks about themselves, and advertising for the musician/ensemble.
- Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that simply report performance dates or the publications of contact and booking details in directories.
Some criteria that make it very likely that sufficient reliable information is available about a given group or individual musician.
- 3. Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country,3 reported in reliable sources.4
- 8. Has won or placed in a major music competition.
- 11. Has been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast on a national radio or TV network.
—From Wikipedia:Notability (music)
I did a quick Google search (not a painstaking, exhaustive one, because I was in a hurry lest someone might decide to delete the article in the meantime). I found that Roger (Trey) Wright has been the central topic of a large number of different and independent magazine and newspaper articles and television documentaries and news reports, including national and international sources. Examples:
- "The Wonderful World of Words." CBS News, 7 August 2005. (This report was broadcast on CBS Sunday Morning, a national network program.)
- "Three-letter word sparks ESPN Scrabble scramble." Associated Press (AP), 6 August 2004. Published in USA Today.
- "TV Scrabble ruling lost for words." BBC News, 6 August 2004.
- "To Mom, with love." Fort Worth Star-Telegram, 28 May 2001.
- "Gone pro: Three Houston proteges return to showcase talents in concert." Houston Chronicle, 19 November 2002.
- "Music Student is S-E-R-I-O-U-S About Scrabble." Rice News, 25 February 1999.
Full reviews (i.e., not passing mentions) of his recitals and recordings have appeared in:
- The Washington Post
- Clavier magazine
- The International Record Review
- The American Record Guide
- Classics Today
- The West Australian
- The San Antonio Express-News
- The Calgary Herald
- The St. Petersburg Times
- The Charleston Post and Courier
- Eye Spy LA
(These reviews have invariably been exceedingly favorable—I've never seen an exception. I know good vs. bad isn't a criterion for notability, but it can't hurt.)
As for the musician notability guidelines (3, 8, 11) cited above, see Wright's article. --Emoll 16:20, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Scrabble section
130.13.61.4, I am reinstating the section on Wright's Scrabble career. If you think it does not belong, please give a rationale, in terms of Wikipedia policy, in an edit summary or (preferably) on this talk page. Thanks. Emoll 02:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The Lion King
However, I am removing the Lion King Broadway credit from this article. Reason: it's a different Roger Wright. Here is a picture of the Lion King Roger Wright, and here is a picture of the pianist/Scrabble champion Roger Wright. Emoll 02:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Horacio Gutiérrez
90.192.239.154, you seem insistent on removing Gutiérrez's name from Wright's list of teachers. The fact that Wright studied with Gutiérrez is documented in one of Wright's bios (a citation which you removed along with Gutiérrez's name). You claim it was not possible for Wright to have studied with Gutiérrez because Wright graduated UH in '97, but that Gutiérrez came to the MSM in 1998. The fact that you are contradicting a reliable source (a major university's website [with information almost certainly supplied by Wright himself]) aside, the fact that you are essentially accusing Wright of fabricating his bio aside--it could still have been possible: one could take lessons after one's formal graduation date. (I know one could, because I did so myself.) Fortunately, we needn't make that assumption, because it turns out that Gutiérrez joined the UH faculty in fall 1996, not in 1998, as you stated:
"Cuban-born pianist Horacio Gutierrez, an internationally known performer, will become M.D. Anderson Professor in the University of Houston Moores School of Music, the school has announced.
"Gutierrez will take his post in the fall semester. He will offer master classes and teach a select group of students while continuing to perform."
— From "Pianist gets UH post" by Charles Ward, Houston Chronicle, 26 June 1996 (link - registration may be required to view)
(Several articles over the ensuing couple of years refer to Gutiérrez as M.D. Anderson Professor of Music at UH [in the present tense].) (I will admit one thing: I didn't know the Moores School of Music was already being referred to as such in 1996, so will research further and edit the MSM article accordingly.)
Anyway, I think the evidence and documentation is more than sufficient that Wright studied with Gutiérrez and should require more than a "I don't see how that would be very likely" argument (especially one based on faulty chronological data) to dislodge that information from the article. Emoll 19:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Notability
Notability has been clearly established by user emoll.--Jkp212 (talk) 06:21, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
