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[edit] Bits & Pieces

There are two places of birth given: (born Roger Meddows-Taylor on July 26, 1949 in Dersingham, Norfolk, later moved to Kings Lynn) [From the article] King's Lynn, Norfolk, England [From infobox]

Which one are we going for?

Also, I removed the infomation about older gear he used to use, the Yam 9000 on the magic tour being an example. If someone wants to put that back in, it should probably go in a separate section, about other gear he has used, rather than is using. GiantSpider (talk) 23:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 86.205.31.72

It looks like the article wants to blame the rest of QUEEN for not giving the importance that Roger Taylor would have deserved... I think it's a matter of point of view and that if he stayed in the band for so long it must have not been that hard for him...—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.205.31.72 (talk • contribs).

Martin Packer 12:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Was it really Freddie Mercury who rejected Roger's tracks - for The Works? I've not seen anything to substantiate that claim. It might be conferring on Freddie band leadership - when he really didn't possess it.

It's on the Works interviews section of GVHII DVD GiantSpider 21:55, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article title

I moved this article to Roger Taylor (Queen) last night, per a move request at WP:RM#Uncontroversial proposals, and it was moved back rather quickly by User:miketm. I don't mind the revert, but somebody might want to also move Roger Taylor (Duran Duran) to Roger Andrew Taylor for consistency. -GTBacchus(talk) 12:49, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Moved without comment, too. I'm proposing the move again. --SigPig |SEND - OVER 16:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.


Roger Meddows-Taylor → Roger Taylor (Queen) — Per WP:COMMONNAME. Also in line with the other Roger Taylor (Duran Duran) and other duplicate-name articles (e.g. Mick Jones). Credited as "Roger Taylor", called "Roger Taylor" at his official website. Was moved as uncontroversial, moved back without comment by another user. SigPig |SEND - OVER 16:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Add  # '''Support'''  or  # '''Oppose'''  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.

[edit] Survey - in support of the move

  1. Support, as nominator. Man is more commonly known as "Roger Taylor". I'm not even sure why this is controversial. --SigPig |SEND - OVER 16:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
  2. Support - more common name. The Duran Duran guy was at Roger Andrew Taylor until last November, when Necrothesp moved it to Roger Taylor (Duran Duran), and no one objected. Very few people are going to look them up by or link to their birth name and they are always going to end up at a disambiguation page. The RT articles were originally created at (band) in...2003? Someone decided full names was a better disambiguator, and it remained that way for several years. Similarly fellow Duran member was created at John Taylor (Duran Duran), then moved to Nigel John Taylor where it awkwardly remained (no one but his parents calls him Nigel). Mike Selinker moved it to John Taylor (bass guitarist) in February, as it's usually preferred to use a disambiguator that describes the person's profession (which would make Roger Taylor (Queen) rather funny). However, Roger Taylor (drummer) is obviously problematic...it would have to be Roger Taylor (Queen drummer), I think. (I have just moved the DD one to Roger Taylor (Duran Duran drummer).) — Catherine\talk 16:23, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment By this logic the page should be moved to 'Roger Taylor (Solo, Smile drummer, Queen drummer and vocalist, The Cross vocalist and guitarist)'.— miketm - Queen WikiProject - 03:09, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
  3. Support as per WP:COMMONNAME. See also William Jefferson Clinton, Anthony Blair, Edwin Aldrin, Edson Arantes do Nascimento, etc etc. From a disambiguation page, the parenthetical (Queen) is much more informative than his middle name. --DeLarge 20:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey - in opposition to the move

  1. Oppose This article is not only about Roger Taylor as a member of Queen it is about Roger Taylor as a person, as a solo artist, and as a member of Queen and a member of Smile and The Cross. Taylor was born and has been credited as Roger Meddows-Taylor. (See also, Talk:Roger Meddows-Taylor/Archive#Title). — miketm - Queen WikiProject - 07:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment: Could you provide citations for the artist being credited as "Roger Meddows-Taylor" in a significant portion of his professional work? - Cyrus XIII 21:51, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
      • He was credited as Roger Meddows-Taylor on the albums Queen and Queen II.— miketm - Queen WikiProject - 07:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
  2. Oppose I understand that common name would have him at Roger Taylor or if that doesn't work at Roger Taylor (drummer). Neither of these works in this case. I don't expect anyone to look for this article at Roger Meddows-Taylor but we have to keep it somewhere and the middle names seem like a neat method (certainly better than tying each to a single band). Furthermore if this article is not moved I propose we move the other drummer Roger Taylor back to Roger Andrew Taylor —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Edinborgarstefan (talk • contribs) 01:28, April 5, 2007.—Preceding unsigned comment added by edinborgarstefan (talk • contribs)
  3. Oppose Yes he is commonly known as Roger Taylor, but other people are too. And as said he is not just a man form Queen, nor just a drummer. On the other hand I saw on many fan queen pages the name "Roger Meddows Taylor". With this name we know which roger is it, it identifies him uniquely, doesn't it. and we do have a disimb. page on Roger Taylor don't we? My guess would be that if someone searches for Roger he will type in Roger Taylor, find a list of Rogers, and choose Roger Meddows Taylor, because beside his name is stated that he is from Queen, Cross, solo adn other. I doubt that people will type in Roger Taylor(Queen), or anything else.

Donny 13:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

To address the comments above regarding what's parenthesised, we don't need to be more detailed than Roger Taylor (Queen) and Roger Taylor (Duran Duran). What's in parenthesis is the minimum required to distinguish them at the Roger Taylor disambiguation page. The place to describe their role within the respective bands is in the article itself, not the title. There's only one RT in Duran Duran and only one RT in Queen. Ergo, we use the band names as disambiguators. Simple as that. --DeLarge 11:18, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
But Roger Meddows-Taylor also has a solo career, has worked as a session musician and producer, and was also a member of Smile and The Cross. Placing Queen in the article's title would imply he has only worked with Queen. — miketm - Queen WikiProject - 11:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know Roger Taylor of Duran Duran is only a drummer and his only released work is with Duran Duran, but Roger Meddows-Taylor is not only a drummer and has not only worked with Queen, so why not move this article to Roger Taylor (musician) and keep Roger Taylor of Duran Duran at Roger Taylor (Duran Duran drummer)?— miketm - Queen WikiProject - 12:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 10:46, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where does Roger Taylor belong in rock drumming?

As a musician (composer, vocalist, percussionist, pianist and guitarist) Queen were, and remain, a huge influence. However, I am forever being condemned for imitating Roger's bombastic and emotional drum style. In my opinion, his drumming is up there with the best. My reasons for this opinion are mainly that a) he has a distinctive instantly recognizable sound b) he uses great tuning (check out his phat snare sound) c) his playing, although expansive in sonority, never distracts from the song itself. I recommend that before replying to this you check out the first four Queen albums. In answer to the above question I think my list of the greatest rock drummers of all time below best illustrates where Roger belongs in rock drumming history.

1) Keith Moon 2) John Bonham 3) Mitch Mitchell 4) Stewart Copeland 5) Roger Taylor 6) Bill Ward 7) Cozy Powell 8) Jimmy Chamberlain 9) Ringo Starr 10)Sterling Campbell —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.104.220.123 (talk) 02:11, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

I have made a few adjustments regarding grammar and tenses but there are a few too many. " as heard on his debut solo album in which he played all instruments " ... This sentence should either read, "as IS heard... " or, "as WAS heard... ". Whichever is chosen, the rest of the sentense should be consistent in tense.


"...as IS heard on his debut solo album in which he PLAYS all instruments." or "...as WAS heard on his debut solo album in which he PLAYED all instruments."


p.s. i also added "solo" to that phrase, as his DEBUT album was probably "Queen" but you're actually talking about his debut SOLO album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.124.91.212 (talk) 09:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Confusion about Taylor's surname

Two quotes from the article:

Roger Taylor (born Roger Meddows-Taylor on 26 July 1949 in Dersingham, Norfolk, later moved to Kings Lynn)

Roger Meddows-Taylor was born on 26 July 1949, to parents Winifred and Michael Taylor, in Norfolk, England.

Ok, I am no expert in conventions on British surnames, but how can a child born to a Winifred and Michael Taylor be named Meddows-Taylor? I would understand if one parent had a double-surname, if both parents had different names, or if the parents got divorced and later remarried, but I do not understand this combination presented here. Is it a mistake in the article or am I just unable to understand British naming conventions? WebWombat (talk) 21:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes I think you are right, it is confuzing :) He is commonly know as Roger Taylor, but being that there are a lot of Taylors (even a lot of Roger Taylors), I think I read somewhere that several Taylor families have appended additional parts to the surrname, so that they can be distinguished more easily. Though I can't remember where I read this. Donny (talk) 23:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

As far as I would guess, Meddows would be his middle name, rather than part of his surname. I've never seen him credited as Meddows-Taylor, nor it used anywhere as such. GiantSpider (talk) 23:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

It is now his middle name as far as I know, it is something called a Double-barrelled name. In the articel it says (without citation) that these kind of surnames should be written with a hyphen so that they are not confused for a middle name. Also it says that it is not uncommon that people make double-barrelled surnames out of very common names, such as Jones, Smith etc. You can see here and Taylor (surname) that it is one of the most common names in England. I'm guessing that Roger though it sound better (and/or shorter) with just Taylor. Donny (talk) 16:40, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


Although the vandalism of the "solo career" section is a little funny, it's not true and I'll get rid of it. 24.141.23.116 (talk) 01:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)