Talk:Rockstar Advanced Game Engine

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[edit] Just one game? By no means

Currently RAGE might just be used in one game. But in future it will be used in other R* games as well. Just as one can read in the article (GTA IV).

But it's true: someone could add the information given in the German WP, why R* decided to use RAGE at all. Maybe I will do it by myself, later. –jello ¿? 01:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Since the trailer for GTA IV and more info on the game are out now, could an admin revert the redirect to the actual article, that "RAGE" was until MIB's edit war initiation, please? –jello ¿? 00:21, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Which of those things is a reliable source that mentions this engine at all? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:41, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

This is ridiculous. The redirect gives me no information about the engine(and that's what I want to find out more about), only that it is used in one game. Even a really short stub with "RAGE is a game engine developed by Rockstar Games and is currently only used in Table Tennis", would have been better. And when it is possible to add new information(by opening up the article and remove the damned redirect, new information will be added.

As for now, I have to divide the Table Tennis Article in two, one for the game and one for the engine.

[edit] Reliable source

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/13134/And-Grand-Theft-Auto-IV-Takes-Place-In-UPDATE-/
The article states:

When we asked Rockstar Games for a clarification, a spokesman told TeamXbox: "We would like to let the trailer speak for itself. However, we can confirm that all footage in the trailer "Things Will Be Different" was captured directly from 720p gameplay running real-time in our RAGE engine on a next-gen gaming console."

This should be plenty to revert the redirect back to the original page. —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 17:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

{{editprotected}}. Because this page was protected for edit warring, it is not appropriate for changes like this to be made. Please contact User:Khoikhoi, who protected the page, and ask for unprotection. Once the dispute is settled, you will be able to edit the page yourself. CMummert · talk 18:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotection and redirect to Rockstar Games

Although there are several reliable sources which document this engine and its use, the stub has little potential. At best all it can state is: "RAGE is an engine by Rockstar Games used in the making of Table Tennis and GTAIV". I've altered the redirect to allay such potential terseness and point the reader to a far more useful article. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 19:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Are you fucking kidding me? —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 02:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Um, no, I'm not fucking kidding you. I'm also not seeing any reason for this righteous indignation. There is an obvious difference of opinion between editors on the issue of notability and sourcing. Ignoring or angrily dismissing such concerns is not going to help you in any way. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 20:21, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I would quite happily redirect it to any related target. As far as I can see, all this game has is one or two passing mentions and nothing close to multiple non-trivial sources, so it doesn't warrant an article at the moment. – Steel 15:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, let me say so: A Redirect to Rockstar Games presents Table Tennis or Grand Theft Auto IV makes some sense [not the most, but some]. But no sense at all makes a redirect to Rockstar Games as you cannot find any info on the game engine in the Rockstar Games article. –jello ¿? 18:25, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm of the opinion this article should remain it's own article due to the following points.
  • It meets WP:NOTABILITY
  • It is equal or better in article quality and notability than those on List of game engines
  • The article will grow to provide even more useful information on the topic
So I say hold on and let the article be improved from its current state. Revert wars will only slow the contribution process. —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 18:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Also, there was never a consensus to redirect the page in the first place. —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 18:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Redirect makes no sense. It does not provide any information on the RAGE engine, and the last stub was much more helpful. Remove the redirection or put up a vote for this. Jo9100 22:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
This article doesn't provide any information on the RAGE engine, save that it's used in two games. The second paragraph of Rockstar Games presents Table Tennis also provides this information. What's confusing, here? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Engine technical info

Just a heads up that I plan to add technical info to this article later today or tommorow. GTA4.net has a great writeup from the GTAIV trailer, but I cannot access it from work. —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 15:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Some reference for the use of RAGE in LA Noire? –jello ¿? 15:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
If you google for "la noire rage" a few candidates pop up, but like I said I cannot access game sites from work. So I'll look in to it later. —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 18:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I checked out the candidates, they are all either fanforums or unreliable foreign sites posting speculation. Since Rockstar Games acquired rights to publish LA Noire at a late stage of development from Team Bondi, use of RAGE is uncertain. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 09:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Rockstar is being said to use RAGE on all of it's PS3 and X360 games. Thats what I have read so far. Gta95 03:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Tabletennis-screen.jpg

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