Talk:Rock of Gibraltar
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[edit] Discussions
- REDIRECT Gibraltar should be here. Then this material can be moved to Gibraltar where it can be easily found partly in the Geology subsection and partly in the History subsection. Doesn't this make sense? Wetman 19:04, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- No, no it really shouldn't. Saluton 20:40, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the racing horse 'Rock of Gibraltar' also be mentioned? The disagreements between the owner and Alex Ferguson did make lots of headlines.
- I guess it could link to it. Saluton 20:40, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Didn't John and Yoko get married on the rock?
- They got married in Gibraltar - you know, the country (fine, Dependant Territory) which comprises the Rock and the bits of land on the side. Saluton 20:40, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Prudential Financial
Prudential Financial's logo is the rock of gibraltar. --71.250.76.146 02:40, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Codename Operation Tracer
Operation Tracer was a US secret operation to put men on the island to spy on german movements on the island. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/article2239241.ece
- your facts are totally wrong - how did you garner that information from that article. Where did the US come into this or the idea that Gibraltar is an island?
- The men were British, not American. As for the question of why someone would believe Gibraltar is an island, I believe it is a peninsula, connected from the European mainland only by a narrow isthmus. 207.69.139.141 23:55, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Expansion
I have expanded the article and cited most unreferenced sections. Chris Buttigiegtalk 11:09, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Greeks - Mons Calpe
The opening paragraph says that the Greeks new the rock as Mons Calpe. Mons Calpe is latin, why would the greeks call it by a latin name, when their legend of Hercules predates the advent of Rome?
Hercules, actually Heracles in this case (being in a Greek story and all) is mentioned in The Odyssey, which Homer dictated in the 7th century BC, so about 200 years before the traditional date of the founding of Rome. I realize that Latin did not all of a sudden appear at the sme time the Romulus killed Remus (as legend would have it). But, even if they did know about the language, it wasn't important enough culturally that they would not have a Greek term for it, eh?
Also, I realize that the Odyssey is probably not the first mentioning of Heracles, but I feel it's adequate to show prior existence of the term.
Could Caple be a transliteration of Greek? Is it Καλπέ?
I found the following etymology here: [1]
"The Phoenicians called Gibraltar Calpe. In Aramaic/Phoenician the consonants in Cala meant Hollow and in Pietra meant stone, hence to them Calpe - Gibraltar (and other similar places) was the Hollow stone, probably a reference to the caves they found here at sea level."
perko 04:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- That is an interesting point you have brought up. If you have adequate references, feel free to change it. Chris Buttigieg 09:06, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Geology
Is the Rock of Gibraltar a Morro? If so it should be added as a famous example. Fig 23:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Seeing as the Rock is neither made of granite nor quartz and isn't round in shape for that matter, I sincerely doubt it. It is best described as a rocky promontory. -- Chris B • talk 15:11, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Dubious
Seriously doubt that this was the case and need a much better reference.
- In ancient times the Rock of Gibraltar marked the limit to the known world and to pass beyond it was to sail to certain destruction over the bottomless waterfall at the edge of the world.[1]
Roadrunner (talk) 16:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- There are plenty of additional references. Have a look at the Gibraltar Museum's website for instance. A cursory Google search will also reveal a fair number of relevant sources. Chris.B 16:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
