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—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.166.138.195 (talk • contribs) 16:03, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
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[edit] Rock in Rio 1991
a-ha played for a paying audience of 195 000 people at Maracana in 1991. It is by Guinnes Book of Records stated as the biggest paying audience for a concert. The numbers for Queen must be wrong....................... There might be artists with bigger audiences after that show in Rio ( even though I doubt, paying audiences ), but I don't understand where the Queen numbers come from. ( sign: Mortyman )
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mortyman (talk • contribs) 16:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
There was no reason to delete my comment about a-ha. Here is the source:
a-ha played for a paying audience of 195 000 people at Maracana in 1991. It is by Guinnes Book of Records stated as the biggest paying audience for a concert. George Michael, Guns'N Roses and Prince played for 60 000 each. a-ha played for 198 000. ( http://www.darsu.btinternet.co.uk/1991.htm ) and ( http://www.a-ha.com/index.php?nf=1&id=2871&cat=470&status=framed ) 16:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)Mortyman
[edit] Rock in Rio Lisboa
I don't think the Lisbon editions of Rock in Rio should be added to the sequence of festivals in Rio de Janeiro... as far as I know the 2006 edition is not being called "Rock in Rio 4" but simply Rock in Rio Lisboa, as was the first one. antiuser 00:56, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Yep you're right "Antiuser"
Can anyone update with estimated crowd sizes? jimaxwell 09:35, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Contradiction
The section about the first Rock in Rio states:
The estimated audience of the Queen shows was of 325 thousand for each show. This had been the world record for biggest paying audience up until 2003 (since replaced by Molson Canadian Rocks for Toronto, which drew an audience of 490.000 paying guests).
However, the Rock in Rio II section states:
a-ha's performance is stated in the Guinness Book of Records as having the biggest paying audience for a concert, approximately 168.000.
It would be good to have reputable sources for audience sizes. ||| antiuser (talk) (contribs) 23:51, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
The 168 000 is a number that is not correct. It has never been. Don't know why someone has changed my figure. I have now changed it to what I had stated in the first place. See the sources in my response above. Don't change again. The sources are above and include a-ha's official site. 22:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)Mortyman
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- Even so, that doesn't change the fact that the Rock in Rio I section states that Queen had an audience larger than 198.000 and that it was surpassed by Molson Canadian Rocks as the largest paying audience. It would be better to have a neutral source rather than fan pages. ||| antiuser (talk) (contribs) 20:43, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
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- I also see other sources stating that the largest paying audience was at a Paul McCartney concert, and others that say it was a Tina Turner concert. Can anyone with a real copy of the Guinness Book of Records confirm what the actual record is? ||| antiuser (talk) (contribs) 20:50, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't have the copy now and cannot offer the evidence, but the year 2001 version of Guinness Book clearly says that "the largest paying audience" was at a-ha's rock in rio II concert, and "the largest paying audience for a solo performer" was at Sir Paul's rock in rio II concert (a few thousands less than a-ha's audience). But when I checked last year's version, there was no record for "the largest paying audience" and very strangely, only the record for a solo performer was in the book. I don't know when Guinness Book stopped printing a-ha's record, but at least until 2001, a-ha had the Guinness record, not Queen. --Eryniel 13:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Just for the record: the Paul McCartney concert the last poster refers to didn't take place in Rock in Rio II. It was the second of two solo performances and, actually, those were in 1990. Rock in Rio II was in January 1991. As for the contradiction, if I may add to the discussion, I'll say that those a-ha figures are entirely new for me. Paul McCartney's performance attendance holds the record for a solo artist in Maracanã - and, I believe, also the general record. As for Rock in Rio, the record for the first event, when Queen played, is widely regarded in Brazil to be the second night of the event, with Al Jarreau, James Taylor and George Benson. It seems to be the only one in which the 250.000 capacity of the Cidade do Rock was at its fullest. As for Rock in Rio 1991, at Maracanã, the news reports, back in the day, credit the record of attendance for the third night, with Guns N'Roses at top spot. Never heard of the a-ha mention. JimboB 17:11, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
The Guinnes Book of Records 1996 states that Paul McCartney had an audience of 184 000. The largest crowd for a solo artist back then. According to the book, Tina Turner played for 180 000 in 1988. a-ha is stated as having the largest paying audience in 1991 setting a Guinnes Book record for a group with 195 000 people, paying 10 Dollars each. Back then a-ha was looked uppon as just a band for teens and not a very serious band, so the media was shocked that it was a-ha that held the largest concert. a-ha has largely been forgotten in Brazil, the USA and the UK and that is proabably why a-ha's concert slips peoples memory. ..On the official video from their South America tour in 1991, it is stated on the back cover and I quote: " On their record-breaking tour of South America A-HA played to over 3 million fans. The twenty.five shows took them through Chile, Argentina and Brazil, and in Rio they broke the attendance record at Maracana Stadium with an audience of 195 000. ' Live in South America is a document of that tour, and captures the energy and excitement of the sold-out shows with the great performances included here " Scan: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/Mortyman/southdvd.jpg End Quote. It should also be mentioned that during a-ha's performance there was a plane hijacking ij Brazil and it got alot of attention in the media and the broadcasting of a-ha's performance included news segments inbetween the songs. Some video clips from a-ha's performance at Rock in Rio: " TAKE ON ME ": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_JZ6Pk7uoM " and Hunting High And Low: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7jKe8vPAVw and A-ha -The Sun Always Shines On TV ": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT1qhM8TjoY Mortyman 21:47, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Q Magazine 2006 on a-ha's Guinnes Book Record from 1991: http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4982/lastscan25kn.jpg
Mortyman 02:20, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
French version of the Guinnes Book of Records 2004, states ( I have translated ): " Record of audience to a concert of rock'n'roll paying 195000 people paid the equivalent of 14 euro to attend a concert of group A-ha to the Rock festival in Rio, the stage Maracana, Brazil, in April 1991. " A scan of the page: http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4891/guinnessworldrecord2004sv2.jpg
Mortyman 15:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
English version of the Guinnes Book of Records 1996. See scan: http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/embopics/img072.jpg ( It should be January 1991, not April 1990. )Mortyman 17:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Deleted
I deleted the info regarding the estimates for the Queen shows, as there is not posted any source for it. In 1991 a-ha set a Guinnes Book world of records by playing for 195 000 paying audience. I have mentioned this numorous times and added several sources to this. Guns N'Roses were no where near the numbers that a-ha played for. Guns N'Roses played for around 60 000. They were pissed at a-ha because of the much bigger crowd they drew .Mortyman (talk) 00:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
