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While browsing the wiki planning a return trip to Disney World, I noticed there was not an article for a few of the major rides, so I contributed this one on the Rock 'n' Roller Coaster. There's certainly a lot of room for improvement and expansion, but I hope it's a good start. --JoshW 21:05, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)

  • Outstanding. I'd noticed many omissions in the rides also but hadn't taken the time to add them. I hope you don't mind my editing. --DynSkeet 16:08, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The "Trivia" section was duplicated, so I removed one of them.

I have noticed that many users have been debating whether or not to include http://www.rocknrollercoaster.com in the external links. I was the first to add that link. Many people have removed it because it is just a fan site, but i believe that it has a place on here. The official disney site for this attraction isnt very helpful. --Jumboshrmp 15:51, 20 Jan 2006

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[edit] Ride Experience Description

The description of the ride should be what the visitor experiences, not what is actually going on. Disney goes to great lengths to build story into each of their rides, therefore there should be a distinct separation in "fact" vs "fiction" when listing the ride experience. an example: "Guests visit fictional G-Force Records" vs "Guests visit G-Force Records". Of course it's fictional. As fictional as the Hollywood Hotel isn't really a hotel or haunted.

But for purposes of the story, you want to say that "Guests enter the Hollywood Hotel's lobby" and not "Guests enter the fictional Hollywood Hotel and see a room designed like what a hotel lobby would look like."

Would you say that a description of Tom Sawyer's Island, "guests can play and hide in a fictional fort" or that in Space Mountain, "guests pretend to be launched into space"? SpikeJones 17:04, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] G-Force: Approx. 5

Is there an actual valid and verifiable source for this statement? The unofficial fansite lists the G-Force at somewhere "between 4 and 5" but I find this less than authoritative. --Hetar 06:48, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

During the last refurbishment, the project team tested it with an accelerometer and it did verify that the max force was about 5Gs at launch. Ncontorno 06:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Title?

Isn't the actuall name of this ride "Rock 'n' Rollercoaster", not "Rock 'n' Roller Coaster" ---WBHoenig 21:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

RCDB has it listed as Rock 'n' Roller Coaster, if that helps. SpikeJones 21:48, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Its "Rock 'n' Roller Coaster starring Aerosmith", just look at the logo: Image:Rock'n'RollerCoaster Logo.jpg. --blm07 01:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Shocker

The triva section claims that Tyler makes the "Shocker" gesture during the pre-show. When does he supposedly do this? I find it hard to believe Disney would let something like this slide by. I was on this ride just a few days ago, and I don't remember seeing him do that. I do recall he makes a pointing gesture right before his limo drives off, but it didn't look like the "Shocker" to me. Ace-o-aces 19:56, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

It may not look like the Shocker to you, but I did verify "a unique hand gesture, similar in style to The Shocker such that I could see it being called that" existed in the video in June 2006 (it's towards the end, before they climb into the limo). Oddly enough, while I was waiting for Tyler to make the motion, people standing next to me in line pointed, laughed, and commented on the Shocker's existence in the video as well. SpikeJones 01:31, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
He does the gesture in question across his forehead when he says something to the likes of, "wait! I've got an idea!" and then he tells the manager to get all of the fans backstage passes. Honestly I'm not sure if Tyler ever really meant for it to be the 'shocker' or not - when the ride opened in July '99, which meant that the video was filmed a few months before that - the shocker was not the popular thing that it is today. Comthought 17:34, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Still... the way it's done makes it look to me as if it's intentional. IIRC, it starts out with Tyler shading his eyes to look into the crowd, then slowly (and, I'm assuming, knowingly) morphs the gesture into The Shocker. Looks delibrate. SpikeJones 23:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Well, given the uncertainty as to wheather or not it was intentional, We should change the wording to reflect that uncertainty. Something like "Tyler makes a gesture that looks like the shocker, but it is not clear if this is intentional. Ace-o-aces 20:24, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
My best description of this part of the pre-show is as follows:

The manager asks sarcastically and exasperatedly, "Well, guys, what do you expect me to do, send them all with you?" While the other band members mumble a general affirmative, Steve Tyler places his hand -- open palmed, with the palm facing the audience -- on his forehead and replies "Wait a minute..." as he folds his ring finger and thumb in, then continues "...I love that idea." If this is the gesture in question, it's not the shocker. Tyler's index and middle fingers are clearly not touching each other, which is an essential part of performing said gesture. So I guess that settles that. 22:35, 18 August 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Message sign

Does anybody know the different messages displayed above the opening tunnel? Ace-o-aces 06:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Attempt to clean up

I was trying to clean up the article since it is a mess. I have made another attempt today, trying to move some trivia into the article since there is so much. I also tried to organize the article by park instead of random. --blm07 16:50, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fastest attraction at WDW?

On the page, it currently says: The roller coaster accelerates from 0 to 57 miles per hour in 2.8 seconds (making this the second-fastest ride at the Walt Disney World Resort, behind only Test Track, and the fastest ride at the Disneyland Resort Paris), and the riders experience 4.5g (44 m/s²) as they enter the first inversion, more than an astronaut does on a space shuttle launch. Both versions feature five trains, only four can run at one time and the other serves as a backup. I don't want to be pedantic, but is it worth clarifying that it is the fastest ride IN THE THEME PARKS at WDW? According to "The Walt Disney World Trivia Book" by Louis A Mongello, the fastest ride in WDW itself is the Richard Petty riving Experience; in second place surely is the buses.TimothyJacobson 19:58, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Mr Mongello, while an avid Disney fan, has many inaccuracies in his trivia books (some of which have been documented on his own discussion boards). That point aside, the question you raise is whether the RPDE qualifies as a standard WDW attraction, and therefore should it be listed as WDW's fastest ride in the article here. Because it is an appointment-based upcharge attraction and is not something necessarily available to the average park visitor, I would vote "no" - the clarification you propose is not necessary. If that were the case, we would then have to add the water sprites, golf course carts, and other non-park vehicles to the overall list. SpikeJones 00:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC)