Talk:Rocco Siffredi
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This article itself does a good job in describing the life of Rocco Siffredi the pornstar. The objections here are immature and unfounded. Tell us why you think it is all those tihngs, and insensitive? Because its being descriptive and giving all the details it can? You need to grow up.
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[edit] excessively adulatory
This article itself is pornographic. Disgusting! Shame on Wikipedia for allowing such graphic descriptions on their servers.
This article is excessively adulatory and contains original research. --Ryan Delaney talk 12:43, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
I agree. I cannot believe this kind of thing has been allowed. --Anonymous 15:21, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Me too, how can such repulsive, disgusting, nauseating, horrible, good-for nothing, vulgar, insensitive thing be in wikipedia. Its a shame on wikipedia to allow such disgusting articles. Wikipedia, I strongly suggest you to delete any articles regarding pornographies. This is meant to be an encyclopedia site for educations and other general enquires. For the goodness of your heart, clear it up!
I wholeheartedly disagree with your objection to censoring this article. The content of this article may seem somewhat lewd to impressionable minds, however the content of this article is not meant to be shocking or obscene. It is meant to highlight the career of an accomplished actor. I believe censoring this article would lead to a drastic trend on wikipedia of suppression of ideas and free flow of information. Please reconsider your objection.
I've made a couple of general changes to the page, with a few more to come. The lengthy textual additions are my own work but based on mucho reading from mags like AVN, the Luke Ford site, discussion with fellow Siffredi fans here in my country and a long, continuing interest in this controversial figure.
It's adulatory, and is trying way too hard to shock. Rocco himself probably would think it innacurate. And what about statements such as the Breillat movie exploring groundbreaking themes? Awful article. Anonymous
More than adulatory it's ridiculous in it's belief of the cinematic techniques of Rocco's work. No, certain films do not aim to 'break the fourth wall' by bringing in more men into the scene, they simply want more cocks on camera! Fairly decent amount of information here but I'm not sure how much I believe. Harmonica 03:25, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
This article doesn't contain adulation or POV, in my opinion. I don't see any reason why anyone would think that this article is trying "shock" people either. It isn't the least bit shocking. There are no pornographic images or crude language. This article is as encyclopedic as any other (except perhaps the mention of his penis size. I think that's unneccesary.) I'm afraid, Harmonica, that just because you don't look at pornography as an art form doesn't mean that it isn't appreciated by others. Wikipedia is meant to be NPOV, so don't bring your nonsense into the article please. Berserk798 20:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Very adulatory. In any case, I disagree with Berserk798: the information on Rocco's penis size would be encyclopedic, but things such as Breillat's movie exploring groundbreaking themes or the fourth wall commentary, are more pertinent in a review than in a proper enclyclopedia. This should be rewritten. 201.1.93.65 23:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Made a few changes, but the article still has a long way to go before it's worthy of Wikipedia. The way it is right now it still reads as if it were written by Rocco's PR staff or crazy fanboys. 201.81.252.13 17:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Neoren : You guys need to lighten up. This is an online encyclopedia. It does a good job describing the nature of his work and why is he famouse. What is so bad with giving a lot of detail?
[edit] The Picture
that's not Rocco is it? doesn't too like him to me. That guy looks really dishelleved. Also, what's Rocco's fixation with that sexual practice known as 'Ass to Mouth'. Any recent Rocco DVD I've seen always features another women performing fellatio on a penis that has just been removed from another woman's anus. Is that not incredibly dangerous? I mean they must need Hepatitis shots before performing. And what's the motive to lower yourself to such acts? money can't be that good.
Roccofan wrote: "Understand that the cleaning these actesses receive in the form of enemas prior to these scenes is second to none, there are probably less germs being passed on that you eating a Big Mac with your hands. This is not scat!"
The "ass to mouth" thing is not all Rocco Siffredi's doing. It's a current trend in heterosexual porn, and has long been established as a regular practice in about 10-15% of heterosexual relationships. As for the comments about Hepatitis, it's true that analingus can transmit disease, but then so can cunnilingis, fellatio, and even open-mouth kissing. As long as you clean yourself beforehand (something I'd hope would be standard practice) and keep your partners out of the double digits, you'll probably be okay.
That said, this dude pushes the envelope of what's in good taste, as well as the definition of "humiliation." I, for one, find most of his later work distasteful and nauseating. Anyone who needs to see a woman choked or see her head shoved into a toilet to get off needs therapy, not porn.
[edit] carocoter@hotmail.com
rocco silffedri desde muy chico e mirado tus video y me parece que son los mejores he tenido mucho afan e aprender tu arte ya tengo 23 años y me considero que puedo ser tan bueno como tu sin quererte faltar el respeto solamente t pido una oportunidad de demostrar mis abilidades y que me puedas dar una respuesta soy oriundo de venezuela soy moreno y tengo un pene de 20 cm. atentamente ruben caricote.
Hah! Now THAT'S funny!
[edit] Fair use on images
Moved from User talk:Aaron Brenneman
You recently removed an image of Rocco Siffredi as depicted on the cover of Playgirl magazine. Can you please explain why you believe the image to be not of fair use? Thank you. Artemisboy 20:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- No problem, thanks for the ping. Fair use (particularly with regards to magazine covers) is interpreted quite strictly on Wikipedia. While a single fair-use image may be used to illustrate a subject if no free image is available, this will in almost no circumstances extend to an image like this one. It's only when the image from the cover itself is the subject of a non-trivial section of the article that it constitutes fair use. Jessica Alba is a good example of this. Here there are already illustrative images and the cover appearance does not constitue (according to the text) a notable event. - brenneman {L} 23:57, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. I took the liberty to mention the Playgirl spread he did in the section regarding his cross-over appeal. It actually fits into the topic nicely. I thought that since the specific issue was mentioned that the image would then be of fair use, and thus can be used on the page once more. Please let me know if this does fall in line or not. Artemisboy 17:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Orientation
Is Siffredi bisexual or heterosexual? I just saw an edit that changed his orientation and wondered which is correct. Peter O. (Talk) 19:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- There's an anonymous user who keeps sticking that in; I've asked them repeatedly to produce a source, but so far they haven't. As far as I know he's heterosexual. Nareek 19:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
He is hetero. He said that when he was younger when he used to masturbated altogether with friends he tried with guys, but he doesn't specify what. But he claims he didn't do anything homosexual since
- Rocco is increasingly using transexuals in his movies, in a "Trans named Desire" he receives oral sex from a transexual actress. I think that it is a matter of time before he engages in penetratative sex.
- The claim that Rocco engages in gay sex with black men in Animal Trainer #15 is not true based on my observations.
The Claim about the movie "Trans Named Desire" appears to be false from viewing the trailer here.
http://trailers.evilangel.com/RoccoSiffredi/TND.mov
[edit] Height
First, excuse for the vocabulary I am going to use.
Who the fuck! changes his height to 5'10????!!! Rocco is a fucking tall guy. He is about 1.90m. Who is that asshole that lists him as 178?? And what worse, even Google uses Wikipedia's height. DO NOT MISINFORM PEOPLE!
Again, sorry for the vocabulary, but it is getting ridiculous.
I am sure that in an interview to Specchio (1999?) he stated his penis to be 26 cm long.
[edit] Problem with penis size information
The information in this article is used as criterion for inclusion in the list at Human penis size#Men famous for their large penis as well as Category:Men with unusually large penis. Now, more than 50 names have been included, and there have been objections raised strong enough that both the list and the category are currently targeted for deletion. Placing this posting uniformly on the talk pages of the articles concerned, I would firstly encourage editors to make sure reliable sourcing is provided to support the claims regarding penis size. Secondly, editors might wish to involve themselves in the discussions taking place at Talk:Human penis size and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. __meco 14:02, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] vanessa
olá rocco tudo bem com vc? sou de tres coraçoes minas gerais brasil uma fá sua... adoro seus filmes parabéns pelo sucesso te adoro muito.
bjss vanessa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.80.26.228 (talk) 00:10, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
