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Excuse me, but Hainan is not a SAR in PRC, it's a Special Economic Region as a provincial unit. -Jesse

The SAR designation is for the ROC time period, not PRC. The map does show Hainan as a province under PRC administration. Pryaltonian 07:52, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Mongolia Area

Why is there a section of the map called Mongolia area? It is confusing as one is may not be sure as to whether it is part of the P.R.C. or not.Dyamantese 17:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

      • Mongolia is and has been totally independent country from the beginning of the history of the world. Mongolians used to conquire over China during the Great Empire of Mongolia(from XIII centure) and after that Ming dinasty (who were not actually chinese people but nomadic nation) managed to control over Mongolians for 200 years. When Ming dinasty collapsed, some of Mongolians had remained at place where is a part of China nowadays. PS: For more information please read the books written by historians from Middle-East (Persian, Turks)... NOT THE CHINESE HISTORIANS WHO WERE ALWAYS PROFESSIONAL AT CHANGING THE TRUE HISTORY!!
  • Because ROC claims Mongolia to be part of China. White represents the area claimed by ROC and not the PRC. --Naus 05:42, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
    • I'm not so sure about that. It seems to be limited to maps - not Taiwan's government's actual claims. [1]. Mlewan 10:20, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
      • I'd have to agree with Mlewan, as the linked article, from 2002, indicates:

        Although the Republic of China had actually recognized Mongolia's independence in 1946, the KMT government, which embraced the "Greater China" mentality, claimed legitimacy and sovereignty over China, including "Outer Mongolia" as part of the nation's mainland territory. The relationship between Taiwan and Mongolia experienced a tremendous breakthrough in January this year when the Mainland Affairs Council amended its administrative orders, which are based on the Statute Governing the Relations between the People of the Taiwan Area and the Mainland Area (兩岸人民關係條例), to exclude "Outer Mongolia" from the statute's scope. That means that because the Taiwan government recognizes Mongolia as an independent sovereign state, Mongolians, who are now considered foreigners, are required to have visas if they want to visit Taiwan.

        --Asiir 14:13, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
        • So? Mainland Chinese have to have visas to visit Taiwan too. ROC can and do still claim Mongolia even though it also recognizes Mongolia as an independent sovereign state. Those are not contradictory positions. --Naus 16:53, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
        • Mongolia Area is 蒙古地方 in Chinese (蒙古 = Mongolia; Area = 地方).--Jusjih 14:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Taiwan

As far as I know the PRC also claims Taiwan as part of it, but the map does not seem to include Taiwan as part of PRC's map. Is there a reason for that? Aran|heru|nar 01:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

fixed. --Mamin27 18:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 64 villages and other areas in the vicinity not colored white

Across the Amur River is a part of land (Heixiazi) claimed by the P. R. C. but not the R. O. C. I believe that it is represented on the map but not colored white like Mongolia and other regions that the R. O. C. has not relinquished its claims as the P. R. C. has.

[edit] Dear CAPS LOCK user, who is foolish enough to "forget" his tag

READ before you ASSUME. During the Qing Dynasty, AFTER the Ming, the areas of Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Outer Mongolia, Tuva Protectorate, Outer Manchuria (Maritime Province, Russia) and Xinjiang were conquered. When, in 1912, the ROC was formed, these were all intact, until warlords fought each other for power and the country slowly crumbled apart. The Soviets forced Outer Mongolia to become independent (the People's Republic of Mongolia), and the British maintained influence in Tibet. Then, in 1949, once the Civil War / Revolution finished and the PRC was formed, China Proper, Xinjiang, Tibet and Inner Mongolia were controlled by the PRC, while the ROC retreated to Taiwan and its surrounding islands. Hong Kong was then still British, Macau still Portuguese. (Note to caps-lock spammers: THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PRC AND ROC.) The PRC claims that the administration of the ROC is no longer legal, as they have no control proper due to the 1949 war. The ROC argues that it can form a separate rule on the island of Taiwan. The ROC currently has NO POWER over its claimed areas; read "CLAIMED". During the Sino-Indian War, the PRC received land from Aksai Chin, and in 1997 and 1999, Hong Kong and Macau were returned respectively. Benlisquare 06:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)