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[edit] License tagging for Image:Barone 2006.jpg

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[edit] Copyright permission

The note granting permission has to to be sent from an e-mail address associated with the website from which it is copied. —Centrx→talk • 00:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

In order to use the text on Richard Barone on Wikipedia, it must be released under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). In order to confirm this permission, please:

  • Make a note on the original website that re-use is permitted under the GFDL and state at Talk:Richard Barone (my talk page, User talk:Centrx may be preferable for quicker response) where we can find that note; or
  • Send an e-mail from rbarone(at)earthlink(dot)net to permissions(at)wikimedia(dot)org permitting re-use under the GFDL.

Only after this has been done can the page be re-created. Sorry for the inconvenience. —Centrx→talk • 17:17, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I have, for the moment, restored the page. —Centrx→talk • 03:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
By "for the moment" I mean only that if, several weeks from now, copyright permission is not confirmed by someone involved with Wikimedia permissions it will be deleted again. Don't worry about it. —Centrx→talk • 04:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I do recommend that you find some external, reliable sources about, for example, the concert preparation or record sales. —Centrx→talk • 04:21, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Those were just some examples/suggestions of things that would have external, reliable sources. The point is that you should cite those sources. You don't need to cite every single minutiae, but the point is to cite the sources that attest to the notability of this person warranting inclusion in an encyclopedia. So, what I meant was link to an article on the Times website, make a citation for the Billboard listings. It is not that necessary, though, as I see there are mentions of the New York Times and the various record labels, but it would still be good to have. I hope you stick around and edit other articles, too. This is truly an important website. I have put a welcome message below that has useful information. I am leaving for the night, bye. —Centrx→talk • 04:51, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

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[edit] Alternative rock

It's more that they're somewhat obscure. Writing that article has always been a balance between referencing as many notable bands as possible while also trying to avoid it turning into name-dropping. After all, Let's Active could be listed in the same sentence, but they're not for basic readability purposes. WesleyDodds 04:56, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

You can always add it back if you want to. It's not my article (even if I did write most of it) or anyone else's; that's how Wikipedia works. I just personally feel in the greater scope of alternative rock as a whole they probably don't deserve a mention over other bands. They would probably better deserve a mention in a more specific subgenre page, such as jangle pop. WesleyDodds 05:40, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:Rbarone.jpg

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[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Bongos edo.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Bongos edo.jpg. I notice the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this file yourself, then there needs to be a justification explaining why we have the right to use it on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you did not create the file yourself, then you need to specify where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Bongos_-_Drums_Cover.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Bongos_-_Drums_Cover.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 01:35, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Bongos_edo_publicity.jpg

I have tagged Image:Bongos_edo_publicity.jpg as {{no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Please also consider using {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 01:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Richard_Barone2006_1.jpg

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[edit] Image:Barone_coolbluehalo.jpg

I have tagged Image:Barone_coolbluehalo.jpg as {{no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Please also consider using {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 01:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Clouds_Over_Eden.jpg

I have tagged Image:Clouds_Over_Eden.jpg as {{no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Please also consider using {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 01:41, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Barone_Collection.jpg

I have tagged Image:Barone_Collection.jpg as {{no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Please also consider using {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 01:41, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:Bongos - Drums Cover.jpg)

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[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:Barone Collection.jpg)

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[edit] Images

Hi, we'd love to have images of Richard here, but they have to be free images due to Wikipedia's image use policies. And for them to be free images, we have to confirm that they are properly licensed by the copyright holder. The easiest way for you to do this is to post the images at richardbarone.com on a page with the statement that the images are licensed pursuant to the GFDL. Just make sure Richard controls the copyright. (For example, does Mick Rock own the rights to the 2007 shot?) Thanks, and if you have any questions, click on the word "seriously" in my signature at the end of this message to hit me up on my user talk page. -- But|seriously|folks  04:13, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, did you not read this message? We can't just take your word that these images are freely available. People make false claims like that constantly. If you continue to post these images without following proper procedures, you will be blocked from editing here. Thank you. -- But|seriously|folks  01:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
By the way, the Mick Rock photo at http://home.earthlink.net/~rbarone/index14.html carries his own copyright. If his 2007 of Richard also carries his copyright, then you need to prove that you have his permission to release it into the public domain. -- But|seriously|folks  01:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Richard, or Robert, or whomever you are: First of all, the article Richard Barone is not yours. It belongs to the community and is subject to the community's policies. Please review WP:OWN. Second, neither of you should be editing the article per WP:COI. Third, user accounts used by multiple individuals are not permitted per WP:USERNAME#Sharing_accounts, so please restrict this username so that only one person is using it. And finally, and this is your final warning (although I see you ignored the last one), if you upload any more images that do not comply with Wikipedia's image use policy, including WP:C, you will be blocked from editing. Thank you for respecting the rules of our community. -- But|seriously|folks  04:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


Okay, I read the WP:OWN and I am also a part of the Wikipedia community, respectful of the rules. I have permission from the photographer to use this image (the one you have deleted twice) and would like it to remain on this page. It is not from the same shoot at the one on the web address you refer to (http://home.earthlink.net/~rbarone/index14.html) - but from a different situation, and we have free use of this image. Please just let us know what tag to use. Also, all the content of this page has been reviewed and edited with the assistance of master Wikipedia editors to be in encyclopedic style with factual content, without hyperbole. Please check the page's early history to see the strong scrutiny it received. Therefore, please allow Richard's Wikipedia entry to remain without tampering, and, if you would be so kind, tell me what tag to use to all the photo to remain. We have full use of it for all purposes. Thank you, Robert Banks.

You should be able to confirm your right to use the image the same way you established the right to use the text on the website, through the OTRS process. Send an email to "permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org" explaining your connection to Richard and that the Mick Rock image was a work for hire or however Richard has the rights to it. It can be tagged with the license of your choosing, as long as it's within Richard's authority. So if he has all rights to it, you can choose PD, GFDL or Creative Commons. (Just don't use the "self" tags; those are for the creator only.)
You should also check to make sure Richard has the rights to the album cover art you've uploaded. If the rights belong to the labels or the photographers, they should be tagged as non-free album covers, not free images.
The COI tags should remain, because readers are entitled to know that Richard's associate has been heavily editing it so they can judge for themselves whether it has an astroturfing slant. (I do think it has some promotional overtones, by the way. For instance, I think the Bongos' role in the whole alt-college-guitar genre is overstated. Based on what I saw at the time, I would place them somewhere below the dB's but above the Feelies in terms of impact. Obviously, bands like R.E.M., The Smiths, U2, and the B-52's were at the top of that pyramid.)
Also, I should point out that while you have been editing here for over a year, most editors would probably still consider you a {{WP:SPA|single purpose account]]. If you are serious about being a Wikipedian, it would be to your benefit to edit articles unrelated to RB, participate in AfD or policy discussions, join a WikiProject or get involved in other areas. People are more likely to consider what you have to say if you have a broader Wikiexperience.
Let me know if you have any further questions, and happy editing! -- But|seriously|folks  08:44, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Barone_Hoboken07.jpg

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OK to delete.

[edit] Duplicate images uploaded

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