Talk:Robert Young (author)

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More information about this article... The following comments have been left for this page: The description of the alkaline diet presented in the article is misleading. This description is sometimes seen in discussions, and is easy to criticize. Alkaline diet is (mainly) not about the blood pH, but about the pH of the entire body, especially of the body tissue. While the blood pH is tightly regulated and therefore seems to contradict the (crude) description of the purposes of the alkaline diet, body tissue can have a much wider range of pH. The criticism presented does not apply to this more profound sense of the alkaline diet. (edit)

This article was nominated for deletion on 2006-08-13. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Contents 1 In progress 2 Merge 3 POV 4 Separate Alkaline Diet and this article 5 Move to other title 6 Criticism 7 Remove misleading statement

[edit] In progress

This site is still in progress. The author is quite renown; but, his credentials are in question any additional research that can be done would be greatly appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heathweaver (talk • contribs) 2006-07-30

I have learned much from Dr. Robert Young from people who have followed the PH Miracle plan, his books, and my own research. I will dedicate myself to making this page unbiased and fact based as much as possible.--Scott bridges08 (talk) 11:06, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

Alkaline diet and Robert Young (naturopath) should be merged. Articles have a large overlap. Furthermore, all references in alkaline diet mention Young's websites; therefore, the article shares critics presented in Robert Young (naturopath). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.215.13.83 (talk • contribs) 2006-08-28

[edit] POV

The tone of the article doesn't seem very neutral. I don't know enough about the topic to edit it, but the article has a sort of "debunking" flavor to it.Jmaclachlan 02:25, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Why not mention that Young is a Mormon? LDS have some questionable beliefs regarding nutrition, I certainly wouldn't knowingly seek diet advice from one. 71.184.176.148 14:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)N

[edit] Separate Alkaline Diet and this article

Although it is clear from the discussions page that the "Alkaline Diet" article and this article were recently merged, I recommend separating them once again, the reason being that Robert Young is not the only proponent of the Alkaline diet.

Sang Whang has also become a leading proponent of a variation of the Alkaline diet which specifically focuses on the consumption of alkalized water. AlkaLife. While this may be regarded as a minor entrepreneurial subjugation of the diet, AlkaLife has become quite a popular reference for sites discussing aging reversal, as a quick Google search might reveal.

Also, About.com appears to have a full article on the diet (Alkaline Acid Diet - What is the Alkaline Acid Diet), which may be helpful for new citations that do not specifically reference Dr. Robert Young. The article also appears to have more information on the diet than is provided herein. I move to open up this topic for discussion. - 75.10.114.157 13:46, 22 September 2007 (UTC), edited by 75.10.114.157 14:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, a Dr. John A.O. Pagano advocates an alkaline diet as a treatment for psoriasis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mruescher (talk • contribs) 01:23, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move to other title

He's not a naturopath. The ND degree he got in the mail has no credibility. otherwise an "UN-D". I propose the page is moved to Robert Young (author) or Robert Young (nutritionist). --Mercola over Merck 23:58, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

The article has been moved. =Axlq 20:14, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

It seems to me that a large chunk of the criticism section is based entirely on original research about the science behind Young's theories. -- Levine2112 ^discuss 23:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I removed some particularly egregious OR criticism; I'll come back in a bit to look at the rest. MastCell ^Talk 00:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I restored one that you removed. If a fact is easily verifiable and supported by a cited source, it isn't original research. In this case, I restored the directory listing showing the absence of Robert Young's name from the membership of the American Association of Microbiologists.

I didn't restore the other claim of (non)membership in the American Naturopathic Association because it cannot be verified. That association apparently doesn't have a web site (does it even exist?), and the original cited source pointed to a different organization (American Association of Naturopathic Physicians) which Robert Young makes no claims about. =Axlq 01:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

There is an ANMA website but he is not listed, I will send him an email asking him for more references on his entire biography on his website.--Scott bridges08 (talk) 11:06, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Excellent work. -- Levine2112 ^discuss 01:53, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Remove misleading statement

Any person who pays the annual fee can become a member of the American Society of Microbiology (ASM). This is clearly stated in the 'About' section of their webpage. I removed a sentence mentioning such "merit" because it was irrelevant and most of all misleading in that context. It does not add relevant information but it appears as if it was one more of his "achievements". SoyYo (talk) 23:34, 4 March 2008 (UTC)