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[edit] Honeydrippers

Clapton had nothing to do with the Honeydrippers. It was Jeff Beck And Jimmy Page Steelslide

[edit] Photo

I know it's not a great photo by any stretch of the imagination, but it's half-decent, I had it, the article didn't have one so I thought I might as well add it until someone can come up with something better. Angmering 23:20, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Well, the problem with "something better" is that this photo is well-licensed; other photos have potential copyright problems. Samboy 07:21, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Voice and singing technique

"His performance in the 1969 song "Communication Breakdown" is particularly intense and is often cited as one of the first examples of the modern punk vocal style."

This feels like a tremendous "reach" to me. If true, it should probably be cited. There are a lot of performers a lot earlier in the 60's (particularly from the Beat scene) who were far closer in vocal style and approach to what would be considered "punk". Certainly Plant's style was tremendously influential in rock music, but unless this can be well cited, I really feel it should be excluded. Steven Dixon

[edit] Plant plays guitar?

It says at the Down by the Seaside page that Plant also plays guitar. Shouldn't this be mentioned somewhere in the article? maybe as a hobby or secondary instrument?

[edit] Why is there no mention of his personal life?

Robert has three kids and several grandkids... Why not include some info on his personal life?

I think it could be mentioned briefly, like his sister Allison, Maureen, Karac, etc. But in general, I think RP's life should remain how he wants it...private. NCS 3/5/07

I also think that more about his personal life should be mentioned, you say you know about his grandkids and family etc. i was wondering would you ba able to share any of this information with me as i am doing a talk all about him and need some information about his family , pleae respond ... stephanie

yeah, I love the fact that it says that he and his wife were in a serious car accident, while never otherwise saying that he is or was married. 12.43.229.154 21:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Too much modern focus?

I think there is a greater focus on Plant's recent history than perhaps there needs to be. granted, the man is a genius and is still creating music, but his peak as an influential individual was during his time in the 7o's with Led Zeppelin. Maybe more information about his past should be provided, or maybe his recent history should be trimmed down. Shaggorama 11:24, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Anything about Plant in Led Zeppelin would really just be echoing the main Led Zeppelin article. Nadim Scolris 22:59, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to see MORE information about his solo career. He had one before and after Zep, including four grammy nominations, two each for Dreamland and Mighty Rearranger. Pre-zep he also worked with Britain's Godfather of the Blues, Alexis Korner. RobertPlantFan 10:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)RobertPlantFan

[edit] Honeydrippers

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there 2 albums by the Honeydrippers ? If so, I can find no mention of it on the Robert Plant Homepage or on this website. 11/8/05 Terri

There was only 1 Honeydrippers album. There has been talk kicked around for years about making a 2nd one, it has yet to materialize. NCS 2/17/06


Robert Plant will come to Greece in the summer (2007). Kouloglou (a boy from Greece) is very anxious to meet Robert and he is skoupizete anapoda sthn toualeta.

[edit] Photo

Does anyone have a better Robert Plant photo than the one currently on this page? It's poorly framed and taken from a distance. --Stuart mcmillen 12:41, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that. I only added it because I happened to have it and thought I might as well. I would have expected someone to have come along with a better one by now, as it was well over a year ago, but they haven't yet. Angmering 17:45, 20 January 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Early Years

I just broke the article up into the categories of "Led Zeppelin" and "Solo Career" to make it easier to read. However, it is interesting, to me at least, that Plant has the shortest Wikipedia entry of any of the Led Zeppelin members. Someone should at least add a paragraph on Plant's life prior to Led Zeppelin to begin to remedy this. I'd do it myself but don't have the necessary materials in front of me. 1/6/06

I'd be glad to help on this. I know a little bit about his early years, but not much, but I know where to ask around to get some reliable info. --Cooleyez229 09:31, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Man I think that picture of Plant is awesome like who cares how it's framed like seriously come on it's Robert Plant like one of the greatest rock n' roll singers ever. I suggest that you stop worrying so much about the little things such as that and enjoy the big things liek the fact that there are even pictures of Plant and enjoy all that he has contributes to the creation of rock n' roll.

[edit] Kashmir Location

Isn't Kashmir between India and Pakistan, i.e. on the Asian continent? As opposed to the African one? This makes the sentence 'The passion for diverse musical experiences drove Plant and Page to explore the African continent, specifically Morocco, which most evidently culminated in the classic track, "Kashmir.", just plain wrong.

Please read the article on Kashmir (song) where this is explained. The song was about Morocco. BauerPower 20:46, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Changed line from (which, ironically...) to (which, oddly...). There is nothing ironic about it at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Halogenated (talk • contribs) 14:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Plant's son?

Any info of him currently having a son?

  • I'm only aware of one son, who died in the '70s. --Cholmes75 21:21, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
He had another son not long after Karac Plant died, named Logan Romero Plant. Last I heard he was the lead singer of a band called Black Country Bandits, but does not use his last name. --Cooleyez229 04:45, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Don't know whether it's true or not...there are conflicting reports...R. Plant is supposed to have another son, born after Logan Romero, with the singer Alannah Myles (sp?) named Jesse Lee. He'd be around 16 now I think. Maybe someone can verify this. NCS 9/28/06

Robert has another son, Jessie Lee, born 1993. His mother is NOT Alannah Myles. Robert prefers to respect Jessie's mom's privacy by not naming her. RobertPlantFan 10:33, 18 September 2006 (UTC)RobertPlantFan

So why is all of this on the talk page, and not in the actual article? Seems like useful info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.215.184.18 (talk) 02:21, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Voice

I'd like to know why his voice is so much deeper on stage. I don't know much about Led Zeppelin, and if that was just his stage style, but I'd like to know if it was because they altered his voice during recording.

  • His voice was not altered during recording. As he's aged his voice, like all singers when they get older, has gotten deeper. If you listen to earlier live recordings such as the BBC Sessions his voice sounds almost exactly the same as on the studio albums. Crazyale 00:11, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I won't put this in the article, because I read it only in a book of sheet music, but Plant supposedly sang higher than soprano C (two octaves above middle C) on some songs. I believe it, but would want to cite specific examples before adding it. Richard K. Carson 05:46, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Robert Plant reportedly had surgery on his vocal chords to remove polyps, which are common among singers, sometime in late 1973 or 1974. Plant's voice was not deeper onstage until 1973 and thereafter. It is widely believed that overuse and abuse (cigarettes, cocaine) caused a deterioration in his vocal quality which prohibited him from consistently hitting high notes live. It is true that people's voices get huskier as they age. I think that is partly the case here, as well. Monkeybreath 09:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Generally speaking tenor vocal parts (which I believe Plant sang in his heyday) are sung one octave lower than they are written. Hence, a tenor line that appears to start on middle C is actually starting one octave lower, down in the bass clef, "true" middle C appears in the middle of the treble clef, and the "tenor high C" is two hashmarks above treble clef. Sometimes the treble clef sign will have a stylized 8 (for octava bassa) appended to it to help dispel confusion (ie, Why does the tenor sing higher than soprano?). Hope that helps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.165.57.190 (talk) 05:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Plant interview

There's an interview with Robert Plant on the BBC Radio 2 Johnny Walker show here: [[1]] if anyone wants to listen to it and add anything relevant to the article - use the LISTEN AGAIN TO THIS SHOW link. I don't know how long the link will remain live tho' Ian Dunster 12:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Why no mention of his voice operation?

Robert Plant is not an alto, maybe a tenor or a very lyrical baritone, there are very few male altos. He just has the ability to sing really high in a light head voice/falsetto-like register.

I agree. Men who sing in the alto range are usually referred to as countertenors anyway...

[edit] stage persona

you know, i'm pretty sure he's admitted to stuffing his pants with a cucumber to make it look like he was really pack'n downstairs, if you know what i mean.... can anyone verify this? JoeSmack Talk 17:31, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

No. Can you? Edelmand 02:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Promising Career As An Accountant???

I think there is some falsity, or at least hyperbole, in the statement "abandoning a promising career as a chartered accountant." Is there a cite that he actually "abandoned" a "promising" career, or even got started studying for a career in accounting? You can't abandon something you don't start, and it can't be promising if you don't start it, either.

From reading about him in years past, I do know that his father wanted Robert to become an accountant. I think it is a bit of a stretch to claim that he "abandonded" a career that he, unless someone can prove otherwise, never began. Monkeybreath 09:31, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I read that this chartered accountant apprenticeship consisted of getting tea for his old, male, grumpy boss. LOL NCS 8/26/06

Robert left school (and home) at 16 to pursue music. His parents wanted him to go into accountancy but it just wasn't for him. Source: http://ledzeppelin.alexreisner.com/plant.html (quotes from a Led Zep Biography) RobertPlantFan 10:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)RobertPlantFan

The statement is sourced from a reputable publication. A reference has now been added to the article. Edelmand 02:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where should guest vocals go?

Where should information like his guest performances on albums go? What I am thinking of is leaned his voice on Afro Celt Sound Systems Volume Three Further In Time Track Seven “Life Begin Again”? Should there be a section for quest performances?Carl 15:42, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] No mention of harmonica?

I don't often contribute to wikipedia but I did list harmonica under his instruments the other day and it was gone the next day. No big deal, just curious as to why?


[edit] What influenced his singing tecnique?

from http://www.superseventies.com/ssrobertplant.html

"My singing voice came out of the loins of a civil engineer. I didn't ask him too much about it. He was a bit embarrassed about me being around at all. Seriously, I don't know where my voice comes from. I listened a lot to Ray Charles. I wanted to be Ray Charles. I also liked to listen to Mose Allison, Oscar Brown, Jr., Maurice Williams & the Zodiacs. I loved the way Maurice Williams' voice used to sort of trail around and leave you high up in the clouds, and then swoop down again." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 21:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mmmm, povvy povness!

The introduction to this article comes off as a gushing fanzine! The rest of the article might be POV, too. I dunno. I quit reading after that, since I was only trying to find out how high one of his singles charted. It's sad that there is so much thinly-veiled praise for Plant's all-around godhood, yet the article cannot specify how high "Big Log" charted. Less POV and more facts, please. --63.25.102.188 (talk) 22:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal

```Jan. 9, 2008 Actually the reference to "I am a golden god" can be found in Stephen Davis' Hammer of the Gods: The Led Zepplin Saga, 1985, William Morrow and Company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tap222man (talk • contribs) 04:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed 'Personal' section

Removed the PERSONAL section. It's unsourced, and frankly it's not really encyclopedic. Please don't just restore it - if nothing else, this removal is justifiable per WP:BLP, although I doubt the section could be sourced as written. Let's either place sourced info regarding his personal life, or discuss the content of the removed section here on talk. Thanks. Anchoress · Weigh Anchor · Catacomb 03:48, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I've added parents names, as per the England BMD Index 1837 - 1984

MicheleFloyd (talk) 13:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)