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Archive 1: 2005 - November 2007

Contents 1 Time before parole 2 Breaking news December 20 3 time aggravated by more than one conviction even at second degree? 4 PDFs of appeal documents anywhere?

[edit] Time before parole

"The exact duration, which Pickton must serve in prison before being eligible to apply for parole, has yet be decided by the trial judge, but must be at least 10 and no more than 25 years."

Is this time for all counts combined or per each count? Is the judge obliged to sentence him in parralel or can he sentence consecutively? If the answer to both questions is the 2nd option, Pickton could be sentenced anywhere between 60-150 years. 13:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

This guy is seriously messed up, whether he committed the murders(about 99% sure) or not. Either way locking him away for life sounds pretty good to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.152.130.194 (talk) 14:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

He will recieve concurrent life sentences, which is the standard in Canada. What the judge will do is review all the circumstances, including the fact that he has been convicted of six counts of second-degree murder, and determine his parole ineligibility period. By law, it cannot be for more than 25 years - even though he was convicted of more than one count.

It is also important for everyone to keep in mind that just because he will be allowed to apply for parole after the ineligibiliy period, doesn't mean he will get parole. Singularity42 (talk) 18:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

They might just seek Dangerous offender status too, and keep him in indefinitely. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 22:00, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, no, a dangerous offender status cannot be sought for the offences of high treason, treason, first degree murder, and second degree murder. Technically, sentences for those offences are worse than a dangerous offender sentence. If the dangerous offender article doesn't reflect that, I'll make the appropriate edits. Singularity42 (talk) 13:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I guess I misread the article and thought it said only applies as opposed to does not apply. Chances are he's not getting out anyways. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 18:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

OT discussion redacted. Anchoress (talk) 20:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

He was sentanced to life in prison, not allowed to apply for parole until 25 years have past. He will never be allowed out. Just because he's elgible for parole doesn't mean he'll be given it!

[edit] Breaking news December 20

Remains of four more identified women found on farm, plus several unidentified. Anchoress (talk) 10:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

This news confuses me, my highschool was beside this place, and my brother just graduated from it this past June, this is just based on observation but it seemed that the investigation on the farm wrapped up a very long time ago. Or? TotallyTempo (talk) 23:17, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

If you read the article thoroughly, you'll see that the discoveries took place during the trial, but they were withheld from publication in order not to affect the jury. Furthermore, forensic experts are still sifting through the evidence. Anchoress (talk) 02:15, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] time aggravated by more than one conviction even at second degree?

Does the sentence to 25 years has been aggravated by more than one conviction even at second degree? 216.86.113.233 (talk) 19:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

If you are asking whether the judge handed down a parole inegligibiliy period of 25 years because of the multiple convictions (as one of many factors), the answer is probably yes... However, the full text of the judge's reasons for sentence have not been re-printed yet, so a definite answer cannot be given until then. Singularity42 (talk) 13:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PDFs of appeal documents anywhere?

News reports have been quoting from the official Notice of Appeal filed by Pickton's lawyers, as well as the Notice of Appeal filed by the crown, but are the documents online anywhere in pdf form? The Vancouver Sun has various pdfs relating to the case [1] but not the appeal documents as far as I can see. --Mathew5000 (talk) 07:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, found them at CBC.ca: Crown’s Notice of Appeal Defence’s Notice of Appeal. --Mathew5000 (talk) 08:04, 10 January 2008 (UTC)