Talk:Robert M. Carter
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Is it just me or is this page a bit too praiseworthy, without any critical analysis of his views. One begins to suspect that the subject may also be an author... Kwakpwns (talk) 01:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] restored the .au critique
I've restored this:
- Carter is a prominent global warming sceptic and has consistently opposed the consensus view on global warming [1]. A March 2007 article in the Sydney Morning Herald noted that "Professor Carter, whose background is in marine geology, appears to have little, if any, standing in the Australian climate science community." [2]
Which was cut, stating WP:BLP reasons (specifically that it was the opinion of a journalist). That particular critique is not valid - as the article is not an Op-Ed/Editorial and thus is part of the newspapers normal journalism. Its a WP:RS - but WP:WEIGHT might be an issue though (haven't looked that much at it). --Kim D. Petersen 19:01, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] removed the .au critique
The comment by the Sydney Morning Herald reporter is quite inappropriate for this article. First of all, it gives undue weight to the reporter's completely unsourced and unverified statement. Even though article from which the statement was taken was not an Op-Ed, since the statement was not sourced or verified, the statement is unquestionably the reporter's opinion.
Furthermore, the statement is false, or at least misleading. This is because the purpose of the statement is to call into question Prof. Carter's qualifications, yet presents him only as a marine biologist while conveniently omitting his qualifications as a palaeontologist, stratigrapher, and environmental scientist plus peer-reviewed publication record in environmental sciences. The reporter's mis-characterization, perhaps, borders on libel.
Additionally, the reporter herself, Wendy Frey, is well-known to be a global warming advocate and her objectivity toward Prof. Carter is clearly questionable, certainly not neutral. DrPaul0401 (talk) 19:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- This looks like a repeat of the section above. I don't think there is any requirement that material we quote from elsewhere be sourced to your satisfaction - only that the source itself be considered reliable. I'm not too familiar with au papers, but is there reason to believe the SMH is unreliable? I don't think we should be taking into account your opinion of the reporter, either William M. Connolley (talk) 20:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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- The points I am making are: 1. The statement by the reporter is clearly an opinion and it is disparaging. 2. According to W-BLP the statement must be a neutral point of view and verifiable. You could argue whether it is neutral or not, but it is definitely not verifiable. This is not my requirement, it is W-BLP. 3. The statement is simply incorrect to characterize Prof. Carter only as a marine geologists. For these reasons, the statement should be removed. DrPaul0401 (talk) 00:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
