Talk:Robert Jovicic

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This article was nominated for deletion on 3/3/2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

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[edit] Permanent residency

According to ABC news: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/23/2170552.htm the Federal Government has granted permanent residency to Mr Jovicic. Winterelf (talk) 21:15, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

I appreciate the articel was discussed at an AfD and kept. I appreciate there are lots of news references. But I still do not feel he is notable. What has changed as a result of his situation? --Matilda ^talk 07:33, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The article was discussed and the decision was to keep, end of story really. He is not notable, but what happened to him was. He was one of several notable immigration cases which occurred under Senator Vanstone's watch and embarrassed the government (Howard's). It may be (purely a conjecture) that together they got Senator Vanstone removed from her job, and they might have had some influence on the election Howard subsequently lost. Aarghdvaark (talk) 09:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

• I think you need to back up that conjecture. I think it should be taken to DrV. I do not think that he meets Wikipedia:Notability (people) - please show how he does. I believe WP:ONEEVENT applies--Matilda ^talk 09:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I didn't take part in the discussion about deletion as I had contributed to the article and thought it best to let others decide Aarghdvaark (talk) 11:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC). However, having had the decision "keep", I think it is inappropriate to try and undo that decision. I thought some of the key points in the discussion were:

• "Keep. ... Other persons who have been mishandled by politicians in the past have not been forgotten (Sacco and Vanzetti, Willy Horton, Stanley "Tookie" Williams). They are still listed with their own pages, despite the acute embarrassment felt by those who have been embarrassed by them. These articles have historical and social value, and they should not be erased just because someone realised too late that they live in the public eye, and are accountable to the public they serve. Wandering Star"
• "Keep. A search of an Australian and New Zealand shows 149 newspaper and magazine articles mentioning this case. There has been a great deal of publicity about this and similar cases placing pressure on the minister Amanda Vanstone and her department. Capitalistroadster"
• "Keep. Of course no-one will remember him if there is no written record. - Borofkin"