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This page is no more than a stub -- though someone saw fit to remove that designation. "Fulton's Folly" isn't mentioned -- not to mention the whole 2nd half of his life. The section on streets named after him is pure trivia -- useless filler -- and has no citations.


The article should mention something about "Fulton's Folly"-- the name that his first steam boat was called by detractors.



I was doing a homework assignment for American History. Here's what I actually turned in:


Term: Clermont.


Description: Clermont is the name that poorly-written history textbooks such as Houghton Mifflin’s The Enduring Vision mistakenly give to Robert Fulton’s first commercially successful steam-powered paddle boat, which he actually called the North River Steamboat.


Significance: The growth of steamboats which began with the North River Steamboat greatly increased the efficiency of shipping along America’s rivers, which encouraged interstate commerce.

Houghton Mifflin has been thouroughly owned. --NoPetrol 01:04, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Bravo! I've read even Britannica gets it wrong. But I think somebody goofed here, too. Fulton the First? She was called Demologos, from what I've read: a catamaran paddlewheeler. Trekphiler 20:31, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

It was originally to be called Demologos ('Voice of the People' in Greek, if I recall correctly, but the name was changed after Fulton's death in 1815. As the ship was not then completed, it was christened as Fulton the First. 216.144.111.187 23:34, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Fulton Street?

Can anyone confirm whether Manhattan's Fulton Street is named after Robert Fulton? Thanks. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 12:58, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I believe it was. As was the one in Brooklyn and the one on Long Island (Hempstead). At least that's what we were always taught as schoolkids when I grew up there. The geographic location of all three suggest that their chronilogical establishment coincides with his life.

[edit] When he came of ass Fulton went to England in 1786

Somebody check that sentance - it was added by an IP on a vandalizm rampage but does not look like obvious vandalism. Agathoclea 13:22, 11 April 2006 (UTC) To answer the question he went there to study art with the famous Benjamin West. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.252.34 (talk) 00:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fulton's Bankruptcy

Regarding the following statement:

In 1824, in Gibbons v. Ogden, the Supreme Court struck down Fulton's government-granted monopoly ruling that states cannot legally regulate interstate commerce. Steamboat fares almost immediately dropped from seven to three dollars after the decision and traffic increased dramatically. Fulton was unable to successfully compete with the low fares offered by Gibbons and Vanderbilt, which resulted in his bankruptcy.

Hadn't Fulton been dead nine years when Gibbons v Ogden came down? Did his ghost go bankrupt? Even the Vanderbilt article says the competition only started in 1818. DCB4W 01:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1876?

There's a sentence which says "In 1876 Fulton went to France (where the Marquis Claude de Jouffroy had made a working paddle steamer in 1783) and commenced experimenting with submarine torpedoes and torpedo boats." However, Fulton died on February 24, 1815, right? Then, what year did he really went to France? --Abastillas (talk) 04:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Republican Creed of Robert Fulton

I once stumbled upon "the republican creed of Robert Fulton" in a book. I haven't been able to re-locate that book or find the creed on the internet. Can anyone supply a qualified quotation of it? Waligorman (talk) 23:55, 9 April 2008 (UTC) He was like crazy and he always do bad stuff about his steamboat experiments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.248.102.186 (talk) 00:09, 15 April 2008 (UTC)