Talk:Robert Frost Middle School (Montgomery County, Maryland)

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This page was voted on for deletion at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Robert Frost Middle School. dbenbenn | talk 14:47, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)


The Robert Frost Middle School article should NOT be nominated for deletion because it is renowned across the county for its superior students. Not only do they perform excellently on standardized tests but they also excel in extracurricular activities, as noted by the article.

[edit] Phone number

This article appears to violate the rule that phone numbers are not supposed to be mentioned in Wikipedia. Any faulty thining in this?? Georgia guy 01:36, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hrm good question, I was unaware of that. If you can cite the specific policy saying no phone numbers, i'll back its removal.  ALKIVAR™ 01:46, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
It is in Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Georgia guy 01:47, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I'm going to assume your basing this off:

Directories, directory entries, or a resource for conducting business. For example, an article on a radio station generally shouldn't list upcoming events, current promotions, phone numbers, etc (although mention of major events or promotions may be acceptable). Furthermore, the Talk pages associated with an article are for talking about the article, not for conducting the business of the topic of the article.

I definately dont think this is being used as a "resource for conducting business" so i'm gonna say lets leave it on there. Its a school and this information is easily available on the school's website so its not really breaking that imo. But i'll leave that up to you to decide.  ALKIVAR™ 02:27, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Frost neologisms

Would somebody be able to assemble a good formatted list of appropriate slang terms around the school. I am a student here and this would be really cool. If someone could do the code, i would supply a list of words.

Period 3, Computer Science Class —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.33.186.150 (talk • contribs)

Neologisms are not appropriate for Wikipedia, as per WP:NEO. --M@thwiz2020 19:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Thank you mathwiz, the neologisms i am talking about are of common usage within the school and are accepted and well known. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.33.186.150 (talk • contribs)
From WP:NEO: Neologisms are words and terms that have recently been "coined" and generally do not appear in any dictionary. Even if they are commonly used at Frost, they are not acceptable in a Wikipedia article. In addition, please sign your comments using "~~~~". --M@thwiz2020 22:35, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I deleted some comment's from 68.33.186.150 about Pranks, substitutes and other info. because it lacked sources. --BrenDJ 22:42, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] reasons for redoing your undo of the robert frost middle school page (rockville md)

Hi,

The reason that I have put the letters back in is that I feel it is important for people who have children in the school or are considering putting their children in the school understand that the school believes that a teacher had alleged inappropriate activity with a student. I would have simply put a link to the letters, but the school did not make them available online. It is also important that people know not just the good things about the school, but also the bad (I believe that this is in line with the wikipedia policy of neutrality). These are not notices, the school admits alleged criminal activity by a teacher with a student.

Many people move to this area because of the quality of the schools in the montgomery county school system. I feel that it is noteworthy and appropriate to put this type of information in an encyclopedia entry, especially considering that RFMS in 2007 seemed to have an unusual number of teachers with problems requiring police or government intervention, because otherwise people might not have the information that they need to make a decision as the school system is trying to pretend that none of it ever happened as near as I can tell.

Thank you very much for your understanding.

Please sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~) so I know who you are. My edit was based on these points:
  • Does a letter from the school principal belong in any encyclopedia article?
  • The issues with the teachers are already mentioned in the article - how much is added by the letters? The point of view is already neutral - adding the letters tilts the article away from a neutral point of view in my opinion.
  • What is accomplished by putting them in? Neutrality does not mean that WP:STYLE is to be ignored. My edit was primarily a copyedit for style, not a comment, and did not change the tone of the article.
  • The inclusion of the letter is also skating on the edge of copyright issues - just because a letter was issued to the parents does not mean it has entered the public domain, and that it can be placed in Wikipedia. It's not clear-cut, but basically, if it's not explicitly public domain, or if you didn't create it, it shouldn't be quoted.
  • This sort of information comprises primary sourcing; it would be better (and more concise) to include an external link, if these letters have been published elsewhere. That would satisfy style, length, original research and copyright concerns.

I have put a copy of this on the talk page of the article. Acroterion (talk) 23:27, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the entire section that was about, essentially, fleeting news events per WP:NOT#NEWS. They also violated WP:BLP, specifically the bits about privacy of contact information and privacy of names. If you feel this information has long term value, please rewrite it to focus on the events and not the people. But honestly, folks, Wikipedia shouldn't be the basis for deciding which school you send your children to. 24.6.65.83 06:45, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the entire "notable teachers" section because the "good" ones aren't notable by Wikipedia standards, and the "bad" one's issues are completely unsourced and in violation of BLP policies. Acroterion (talk) 21:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)