Talk:Robert Fripp
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[edit] Chronology
The article says he worked with Bowie on "Heroes" and then went on to work on Peter Gabriel 2 and Sacred Songs. According to this interview it was the other way around. http://www.elephant-talk.com/wiki/Interview_with_Robert_Fripp_in_Melody_Maker_%281979%29 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.0.194 (talk) 10:41, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Innovations
I'd like to see a section about his innovations, with sub-sections for 1) frippertronics, 2) the crafty guitarists, 3) special tunings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.112.17.38 (talk • contribs)
[edit] Tone Deaf??
Really? I find it hard to believe... Anyway - Any source for that? 89.1.182.59
I found it hard to believe as well, so I originally tagged it as needing a citation for verification. Quite honestly, even with the rewording that someone did recently ("was at first" wasn't in the original statement), it seems spurious at best and disingenuous at worst. I think I'm going to go ahead and remove it actually since it seems unfounded. Charles M. Reed 20:04, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
- Fripp has repeatedly said he was tone-deaf with no sense of rhythm when he started playing the guitar. As it's actually pretty interesting, I re-added it to the article, with links to the interviews. J. M. 05:28, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, what do you know? There's hope for us all! Thanks for the sources. Charles M. Reed 19:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Affiliations
At the moment it is just Crim and David Sylvian - that seems odd. Should we include everyone he's worked with ? Or just his group memberships ? Or what ? -- Beardo 02:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fripp & Holding Meetings?
I'm not sure where I heard this, but I read somewhere that Robert Fripp will actually hold meetings about songs for KC/solo albums. I'm not sure if it can be colloborated.
[edit] Accuracy
'Fripp toured with Gabriel to support the album, but remained in the wings and was introduced to audiences as "Dusty Rhodes".'
Can this comment be verified? If not, isn't it possible that may not have been a reference to Fripp at all, but to DAVID Rhodes, another guitarist who has toured extensively as a member of Peter Gabriel's band? Furry Canary 06:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- No, its a Fripp reference given that the tour in question predates David Rhodes involvement with Peter Gabriel. Its been mentioned in numerous sources over the years, such as p.208 of Sid Smith's In The Court of King Crimson. Gabriel introduced "Rhodes" to the audience on the '77 tour even though he played offstage.
- Tim gueguen 05:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I have a bootleg of a Peter Gabriel show where he introduces "Dusty Rhodes", which I first assumed was a reference to David Rhodes, but it's very obviously Fripp playing-- just my two cents.
Yesyouam 00:43, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Robert Fripp-Exposure (album cover).jpg
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[edit] Pershore
In his diary Fripp affirms he resides in Bredonborough, a fake name. In the photos he posts in the same diary you can recognize Pershore. I could give you the address but it's better not to encourage stalkers ;) Marco bisello 09:54, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- Nevertheless, Wikipedia requires that everything in the articles must be attributable to a reputable published source. So I'm going to remove Pershore from the article, since it's not backed up by a reputable source. When you or anyone else find a reputable published source that says he lives in Pershore, feel free to add it again. Yes, I know you posted the links to the Google photos, but that violates yet another Wikipedia rule – no original research. That is, you cannot do your private investigation and publish your own findings in Wikipedia articles, you can only quote what someone else has said, in a reputable source (serious magazine, book, trustworthy website). —J. M. 14:31, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm - does Wikipedia count as "reputable" then, since Toyah's page also says they live in Pershore? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.138.235.243 (talk) 17:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia articles are (or should be) just summaries of information that's available elsewhere. So when you want a reliable proof for something that's written in a Wikipedia article, you should ask if the fact is verifiable or not, that's the only thing that matters. You don't verify something by pointing to a sentence in (some other) Wikipedia article, because every sentence in a Wikipedia article should just be a "link" to an external source. So in the end, you have to see the external source. So, if the authors of the Toyah page can back it up by citing a reliable source, then it's reputable and trustworthy (but the citation should point to the original source, not to the Toyah page). If they cannot, then the claim can be challenged (by requesting a citation) and eventually removed. That's the standard process in Wikipedia. After all, that's also what makes Wikipedia a fairly good source of information – even though you cannot trust it blindly, errors happen in Wikipedia articles, too. That's why citations are needed, so that everyone can verify the facts for themselves. —J. M. (talk) 18:30, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
(hearty applause) Next time, you could just say something like this : "No." Get out much? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.138.235.243 (talk) 10:12, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
The Wikipedia entry for Pershore also includes a reference to Fripp & Willcox living there :-) R. sparts (talk) 21:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, but again, the same old problem (so I hope to receive another hearty applause): it is unsourced. Unsourced claims in Wikipedia can be challenged and eventually removed. It does not matter how many Wikipedia articles say Fripp lives in Pershore, if they don't provide the source – it could all be added by the same person, or someone might see the unsourced claim in the Toyah article (that she and Robert live in Pershore) and therefore add it to the Pershore article, too (without having any other proof)... A single person can cause a lot of confusion and misinformation in Wikipedia. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Fripp doesn't live in Pershore, in fact I believe it's true, but Wikipedia does not care what we believe in. To quote the official Wikipedia policy: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth". —J. M. (talk) 21:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- So I added a citation request for the Pershore claim on the Toyah page and a reference was immediately added. So it is now safe, as far as Wikipedia requirements are concerned. :-) —J. M. (talk) 22:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
