Talk:Robert Frenay

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This article was nominated for deletion in the past. The result of the discussion was No consensus.

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[edit] From deletion debate

Strong Keep I began this article after attempting to do research on some of the issues mentioned in Frenay's book, blogs and articles and discovered that he didn't even have an entry on wikipedia. As a lecturer in current circulation and author of very ambitious nonfiction book about technology and the environment, I believe Frenay is notable enough to be worthy of an article here. I hope you will review the article before deleting it: I have added his birth year, removed the long quotes, added reference to the short quotes I kept, added additional notable information, etc. I also removed the under construction tag.--Markisgreen 14:52, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Please note that the AfD closed w/o consensus, and it is possible that the article can be relisted for deletion without improved sources. The two used in the article at present hardly seem adequate to demonstrate note, as one is the author's own website and the other is a short blurb reading only:

Can genes challenge machines? Author Robert Frenay is a former contributing editor of Audubon magazine and in PULSE: THE COMING OF AGE OF SYSTEMS AND MACHINES INSPIRED BY LIVING THINGS, he charts the shift from machines to biology bolstered by computers: a type of 'new biology' in which human systems and machines meld to form new possibilities. From robotics to materials science he considers industrial ecosystems in which waste products from manufacturing become the new materials for another endeavor, considering the changing relationships between mechanism and biology in the process. Supporting these observations and contentions is a history of such relationships and their changes, areas in which biology can be seen at work, interviews with scientists and researchers, and observations of mechanisms actually produced which support his positive visions of future industrial endeavors. His single idea comes from a researcher's perspective and reflects on the cultural philosophy and pressures shaping technological change.

Seems more like a summary than real content. If possible, please clear up the case for note with stronger, third party, verifiable sources. MrZaius^talk 18:19, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ref suggestions

I've got to quit for the day, but here's three refs that come a little closer to meeting WP:BIO - [1] [2] [3] MrZaius^talk 04:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)