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[edit] Second name

Is Bartleh his second name, now, or not? His name had been stated as Robert Bartleh Cummings on the article page for a long time but it was removed, why?

If it isn't his second name then he shouldn't be stated as Robert Bartleh but if it IS part of his name then it should definately be shown on the page. 1stLtLombardi 00:18, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia in both Rob and White Zombie biography

I think the trivia concerning the samples used in some of the songs of both the White and Rob Zombie era should be removed to the pages of the according songs themselves. Any suggestions? -1stLtLombardi 19:49, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gold certification?

On the RZ discography page it says Educated Horses is certified gold. Is there a link for this?

[edit] 4th Studio Album

It's been mentioned in several magazines (Fangoria, Revolver) that Rob and co. may return to the studios to record an album for a 2008 release. Keep posted on this; I can't remember which damn issue it was that I saw that article in! URFG 15:35, 25 May 2007 (UTC)URFG

nope. not gunna happen. maybe you're thinking of the White Zombie Boxed set that rob is compiling? i'd love to see this happen as rob's music without the input of a talented guitarist, bassist and drummer is mediocre at best, but i highly doubt this will happen anytime soon.69.212.158.85 (talk) 12:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] genre

Wouldn't his music entitled "Rob Zombie" as in Hellbilly Delux and The Sinister Urge be considered Nu-metal partially? I mean I can rarly hear guitar solos and there are many electronic sounds. Even on the nu-metal page he's there.

Not nessicarily because nu-metal contains hip-hop beats and/or rapping. Rob doesn't do any of that, though he does have lost of electronic beats. Bands more like Korn or Slipknot are nu-metal. URFG 14:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)URFG

Along with the genre chat, what is it with him being listed in Groove Metal. When Groove Metal is mentioned all I can think of is stuff such as Superjoint Ritual and lest we not forget Pantera. Comparing to these Rob Zombie is way off what "Groove Metal" really is. I personally don't think he should be listed under the genre. Tazz 02:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Johnny Ramone relative?

no, Rob Zombie isn't related to Johnny Ramone. That would be cool though.

[edit] Deletion of upcoming live CD

Why was this page deleted? All of the information can be found on Rob's official website.

[edit] Al Jourgensen

Should something be included in this article about Rob "borrowing" some of his style and look from Jourgensen? Has Rob ever commented on this in interviews? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.43.208.76 (talk) 10:47, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

Any cited sources or is this just your opinion?--CyberGhostface 17:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

i dunno rob's look between la sexorcisto and the end of (white) zombie was quite similar to that of jourgensen throughout his career.68.255.174.173 17:35, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

I was looking through the list that goes into detail which of his songs borrow lines from films and all that other esoteric fanwankery and noticed that a lot of them don't seem very valid, especially not in the tone that they are written in. Some are fairly made, given that it takes a pair of working ears to connect a line from a film to that of one of his songs but other times it seems like whoever came up with that section was fishing in a dry well of knowledge that seems to make a threadbare connection to things in question. Bottom line to all of this, I believe it could use some trimming. 4.224.249.38 14:10, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Richard Matheson reference?

I'm reading Richard Matheson's "Now You See It..." and at the end of chapter 1 the last two sentences say, "A chronicle of greed and cruelty, horror and rapacity, sadism and murder. Love, American style." Those same words (Love, American style) are in the White Zombie song "More Human than Human" (near the end) which is based on the movie "Blade Runner". Just thought it might be more than coincidence since two of Rob Zombie's songs (Creature of the Wheel and I am Legend) are about Matheson's novel "I am Legend". - Frank

Interesting point. I always thought that the WZ lyric related to Love, American Style (a late-1960s/early-1970s television show), though. Hmm. --Myles Long 23:22, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Matthew McRory is Dead

If McRory is dead, how can Zombie be planning to put him in a sequel?

What are you talking about? Before he died, he appeared in the Devil's Rejects (a sequel to 100 Corpses). This is the last movie; Zombie said he's not doing anymore sequels. --CyberGhostface 18:45, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Something that could be added to his page

Zombie's page mentions that he and his brother were heavily into the B-movies and classic monsters and stuff like that, which inspired Rob's music, but it doesn't say that the reason they were so interested in those things was because their parents were carnies, and they went with their parents around the carnival circuit.

I can site this information from Metal Heroes Magazine. I was just wondering about it, if it seems like relevant information to you guys, and if someone had the time, maybe they could stick that in there.

I wouldn't know really how to word it to make it flow with the rest of the page.

--24.92.36.157 07:41, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

if you can source it, add it. let other people worry about editing it so that it will "flow with the rest of the page". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.43.208.76 (talk) 10:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

I'm surprised there's been no mention of his illustrations on this page. --acidedge76 14:59, 28 August 2007

[edit] Rob Dirt Straker?

Why is he credited as such on Soul-Crusher?

Rob Staker was his stage name in the early White Zombie days. ~~Tallman

[edit] Where is his discography?

I don't see a section clearly indicated to be his solo discography. -Iopq 02:27, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2 Articles?

Wouldn't it be better if there were two articles - Rob Zombie (person) and Rob Zombie (band) rather than just the one? Other artists that share their name with their band include Marilyn Manson, and there is a page for both himself and the group.

Probably not, because unlike Manson or Van Halen, isn't Rob considered a solo artist? That's a tough one, because he has full sized pics of his band members in his lyric books, possibly implying "Rob Zombie" is a band, but I think it is still considered Rob Zombie's solo work from all I've heard.

Rob Zombie is considered to be a solo artist, the band he was in was White Zombie but since that is no more, Rob Zombie has continued his music career as Rob Zombie, he just get people to play from him on tour (atleast thats the impression i got)

[edit] The red shirts

The article currently metions Rob Zombie was the lead singer of the "Capella group, The red shirts", but I can't find any reference to that band anywhere. Can anyone verify that? -Carlif 20:12, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I removed it until someone else verifies it.--CyberGhostface 23:19, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two Voices

I think there should be some mention of Rob's two different vocal styles, notably his high nasally voice as in the verses for Spookshow Baby and his low growly voice as in the chourus for Dragula. He sounds like two completely different people, yet both are easily recognizable to the average rock fan as Rob Zombie. That takes a lot of talent imo, as most rock singers cant even get famous enough so that people recognize ONE of their voices, yet Rob has done it with two. The only other singer I can think of where this is the case is Axl Rose with his high schreechy voice and lower "aye-aye-aye-aye" voice.

Personally i think that Rob Zombie isnt a rock singer at all, i think he is American Metal and to be honest with you the first time i had heard of Rob Zombie is when Piggy D started playing Bass for him.

You should keep in mind that almost all musicians, especially in the metal genre where you have to abuse your voice to the extreme, "edit" their voices in the studio so that in the end the album-voice sounds appropriate and I'm sure that Rob's true voice is at its best mediocre (ever heard him live?), so I think that his 2 voices come from the studio's computer or something like that. -1stLtLombardi 19:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Section removed per WP:TRIV. The contents were unverified as well. Anything that can be verified should be worked into the article.--Isotope23 01:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright Violation removed

I've removed most of this article and replaced it with only text that is not a copyright violation. Please do not revert any text unless you have confirmed that it is not in violation of copyright, particularly from about.com sinblox ^(talk) 00:48, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The entire article wasn't a copy vio! A chunk of it was written manually. Don't destroy the entire article. Just have another editor remove the offending material. There's still some non-copyvio information.--CyberGhostface 01:41, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, I was wrong. Sorry.--CyberGhostface 01:51, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Halloween

Information regarding the production and upcoming release (Aug. 31) of his Halloween remake should be included on his page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.149.156.230 (talk) 21:10, 4 April 2007 (UTC).

Did that yesterday, it's in the main article now. :) By the way, does anyone know when El Superbeasto is going to be released? OR Sin-Gin Smyth? Seems like both of those movies are taking FOREVER to come out! URFG 19:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)URFG

[edit] A very incomplete article

This article is about Rob Zombie the person, yet the band he was in for thirteen years has only a passing mention at the top of the article. It goes straight from te table of contents to Rob Zombie, completely ignoring everythig from his birth up until he released Hellbilly Deluxe. I'm not saying we should scramble to get his life story, but we should at least add a part for White Zombie. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.239.66.119 (talk) 19:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

Obviously. Prior to this the entire article was a copyvio, so we're having to start completely from scratch. Rome wasn't built in a day.--CyberGhostface 20:22, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Keep in mind, this is a page for Rob Zombie, not White Zombie. And yes, it DID suck that his page was deleted. But now, I've partially restored it by adding info in my own words, and other editors are helping out. So if you find anything worth mentioning and has a reliable source (or your own words), feel free to post it. URFG 19:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)URFG

[edit] His Sound

I Want To Add A Section that talks about his singing —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.53.174.6 (talk) 23:42, 13 May 2007 (UTC).

Go ahead! Just make sure that it's non-biased and be sure to provide citations on where you got the info from.URFG 02:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)URFG

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Rob Zombie - Sinister Urge.jpg

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[edit] Quake 2

Hey all, Rob Zombie did a lot of the awesome Quake 2 soundtrack, its pretty well known and theres info and a link to RZ from the Quake 2 wiki. Why is there nothing about this on his site? He also did a very very strange instrumental version of More Human Than Human called Jingle Bells or something, it was on a crash driving game. RZ also did some of the soundtrack on Medievil playstation game!

[edit] Vandalism

I'm not sure how to add the vandalism tag, so I'm posting here to say that there is vandalism on his page. --72.130.139.183 22:52, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

All you have to do is revert the vandal's edits and if necessary warn him.--CyberGhostface 00:26, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is he Vegetarian/Vegen?

I read on one of PETA's websites that Rob Zombie was vegetarian after watching a "meet your meat" base film in highschool.I hope I'm allowed to post the url for varification [1]

Anadentone (talk) 05:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comic Con disambiguation

The Comic Con link under one of the images leads to disambiguation page. Can someone fix it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.99.99.172 (talk) 21:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)