Talk:Rob Davis (Ontario politician)

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[edit] Opinions sought

Is this sentence appropriate for the article: City councillor and future Mayor of Toronto David Miller finished second for the New Democratic Party.?

GoldDragon has objected to this edit, on the grounds that it lists Miller as a future Toronto Mayor. He believes we should only describe Miller as "a city councillor", reflecting the office he held at the time.

I believe it is appropriate to list Miller as a future Toronto mayor, for the benefit of readers who may be unfamiliar with his career. What say others? CJCurrie 00:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I rejected it on the grounds that at the time, he was not considered a contender to the mayoralty and he did not contest that office until 2003. That is why Kennedy's cabinet position was also removed, more relevant is how he was seeking the office as a follow-up to contesting the provincial Liberal leadership. Either way, listing where they would end in in ten years time makes Davis look like the underdog in the race. If they wanted to know more about Miller, that is why a link is provided. GoldDragon 18:20, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Methinks that you're trying to apply one of my arguments (re: underdog status) from the Longfield/Elliott debate to a completely different context. In any event,

(i) Davis *was* the underdog in the contest. The Tories don't exactly have a strong history in York South, and the Harris government wasn't especially popular in downtown Toronto at the time.

(ii) I've already addressed the rest, and fail to see how listing Miller as a future mayor takes anything away from the article. CJCurrie 20:30, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

While I generally err in favour of more information rather than less, the fact that Miller became mayor in 2003 does not mean that he was a powerhouse seven years earlier. Thhe article is about Davis, not Miller.

"he was seeking the office as a follow-up to contesting the provincial Liberal leadership" -- Don't you mean "he was seeking the office as a precursor to contesting the provincial Liberal leadership"

What does the Harris government's unpopularity in downtown Toronto have to do with York South? YS wasn't even in the City of Toronto in 1996? I agree, however, that YS is not Tory territory. It may be better to identify that specifically. Ground Zero | t 02:07, 17 June 2006 (UTC)