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[edit] Don't misunderstand

Don't forget that at least 2 other users from your opposite view in that article, are somehow from the Iranian Azerbaijan. We didn't want to do any harm to this article. No one questioned the sovereignty of "Republic of Azerbaijan", me myself filled with joy when I heard that our brothers finally get rid of the Russian oppressors, but I am realistic there is no chance for reunification of Republic of Azerbaijan to the mother land, because in the Russian reign they have lost almost Everything (culture, religion, honor, purity of women,...), but in Iran (at least for ones that didn't immigrated to other parts of country) their language, culture, religion and etc are almost intact from 200 years ago. They are now totally different in culture. Iranian government beside some occasional propaganda have never did anything harmful to republic of Azerbaijan, and in Nagorno-Karabakh_War Iran somehow helped Azerbaijan against Armenia. ( please read the article). If there was a "real" claim to the republic of Azerbaijan from Iran, months after the collapse of USSR was "the perfect time". You said that you are also from Iranian Azerbaijan) I want to know your feeling after reading this article.[1]. Believe me, I really get angry after seeing this [2] (see what they have put in the external links) they have the same motives as an Arab editor in Asharq Al-Awsat which two weeks ago wrote this article [3] (please read this carefully, he couldn't hide his joy after manipulating history and facts. HA! only 70% Shia! ) --Pejman47 20:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

by the way, as I said in the discussion, I agree with the compromise and already crossed my name and be sure after a compromise, no one will disobey it. --Pejman47 22:10, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, As I said before, now I have no problem with the proposed version.Ask for unlocking of the page and correct the page. Take care. --Pejman47 13:08, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
GO here Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Current_requests_for_unprotection and say that some consensus have been reached. and ask for changing the full-protection to semi-protection. If it will be necessary, I will also help you. یاساشین ایران و آذربایجان --Pejman47 14:08, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Dear brother, Iran never Helped the Armenia in the Nagorno-Karabakh_War (It was at most "neural", see the article) this is all PR of Turkey. By the way, if you found a page with strong POV that can not be solved, don't hesitate putting a message in my talk page. --Pejman47 22:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, They sell electricity to BOTH the Azerbaijan (specially to Nakhjavan) and Armenia with the same price. If you have heard, There was recent talks to sell gas to Azerbaijan, too; also with the same price. It is only a "trade" without any political agendas. They are not rich to sell gas with 50% discount to any party (I mean difference of Russian gas price which also exports to both country). And all of this is after the war. --Pejman47 22:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

First of all, thanks for making that post showing your evident bias and POV, which undermines your credibility even more. Furthermore, Atabek, for example, had a sockpuppet that was permanently banned, so you cant blame me when I get suspicious that several users pop up all within one month and get into debates in the same articles.Azerbaijani 00:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Please Raozir, calm down and never call other contributors Fascists. That is considered personal attacks as per WP:NPA. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 20:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello mate, I have never called anyone Fascist. Please read carefully before accusing me of calling someone Fascist. I have written "FARSIST" or pan-Farsist (Persianist) probably once or twice which is an ideology practiced widely in Iran. I am calm, don't worry, just read carefully before making a statement! ;) Roazir 08:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I have striken the term fascists and i apologize for that. However, it wolud still be better to discuss the matters w/ them instead of assuming that their contribs are a kind of racist. If you need help re the matter please feel free to contact me. Cheers and happy editing. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 17:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply! I am from Iran and I know how things are in Iran and it does indeed bother me that this website is full of Iranian nationists (it depends on how we characterise and separate nationalism and racism) who are aggressively pursuing policies according to which all they edit glorifies Iran and of course they centre on the Persian identity of Iran ignoring the remaining 50% or so of Iranians (and I am one of the non-Persian). Please take a look at the article about Chehregani (an Azerbaijani nationalist or separatist, I don't know much) and tell me whether it is a wiki article or an Iranian (or middle-eastern style) article making so many statements rather than focusing on the facts. And this article about Iranian Azerbaijan is trying so hard to link the Azeris of Iran to Persians and even they have written something that strikes of racism (to me at least) linking the Azeri DNA to Persians. It was written "race" before and they removed it because of me asking. Why does an article about Iranian Azerbaijan need to link the DNA of the people to "supreme race" (Aryan or Persian) race as they used to call during the Pahlavi? And most Iranians here seem to be either Islamist, or Aryanist Farsist, or a combination of both. Quite funny, and sad, that they edit according to their prejudices. Roazir 17:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Nice to meet you Roazir. I see your point and these things are common in wikipedia. I always feel glad when i see new contributors joining the project. You've been w/ us since a few weeks now and i really know how one feels when joining wikipedia. i personally went thru that as well and participated in the Islamic conquest of Persia before and afrter moving the title from Islamic conquest of Iran to Islamic conquest of Persia but never lost my temperament. I even kept excellent relations w/ Persian editors though we differ in many points. So, all in all, it is about mutual understanding and communication what this wiki is about. Whenever you need any help just approach me. Cheers. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 17:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)