Talk:Roads in the United Kingdom

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Contents 1 small note regarding other limits? 2 Northern Ireland 3 Driving 4 Speed Limit Signs 5 Primary destinations

[edit] small note regarding other limits?

Have had a browse thru a road traffic police manual... there's a few other interesting limits that may explain various things (including the common lack of minimum limits on e.g. motorways, despite the sign existing in the highway code), i can't see any other place it would be appropriate to put them (clicking on links about uk limits send you round in big circles with this being the reference for NSL)... would have put them straight in but wondering if it might just get shot down.

EG 40mph on motorways for dual-trailer vehicles, 20mph *everywhere* else (I think I've only seen one of these, as part of a funfair convoy making painfully slow progress up the M6)

18mph for tractors... which i suppose the police ignore even more than the 40mph single carriageway truck limit

and several others which I can't recall, but i did grab a phone camera pic...

...plus 52.8mph (85km/h) for rigid-bodied vehicles over 12 tonnes... so not artics but cranes, etc. OK so it's a EU limit, and I saw it seperately from the police manual, but it's apparently also law in the UK, unlike the common 90km/h (55.9mph) limiter on HGVs - ours can be anything up to 60mph strangely. 82.46.180.56 (talk) 23:14, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi. This might be more appropriate in Driving in the United Kingdom which is on my list to rewrite. Do you have a reference beyond the manual? Regan123 (talk) 18:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Minimum speed limits are in place for the Blackwall Tunnel. I would suspect they are used at some other 'choke points' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.201.98.210 (talk) 10:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Northern Ireland

I am very concerned that at the moment there is very little here about Northern Ireland. Does anyone have some good references to expand it. I can do some work on the motorways from the motorway archive, but beyond that I am a bit stumped. Regan123 (talk) 18:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Driving

I think the table, now that it has the kph conversions looks cluttered and messy, with unneccesary duplication. It was the initial intention when I put it in that the conversions be put underneath to avoid this. It is an article about UK roads after all - where we use mph - and whilst I agree that providing a conversion to kph is useful, this should not at the expense of aesthetics. --TFoxton (talk) 20:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Pity the UK Government did not complete full metrification (Canada & Australia - were able to achieve it - and Australia still drives on the left) to avoid this problem. pebbens (talk) 00:27, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speed Limit Signs

A perculiarity of the British roads is that there is a National Speed Limit applies sign (known universially as a "restriction ends" sign - so could be interpreted as no restriction to speed...) and some assume it means 70mph by default... Interestingly some local authorities post "60" speed limit signs around cameras, I ponder how many would break the law past the camera if they were not so kind... pebbens (talk) 00:28, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Primary destinations

"Primary destinations" is a redirect here from many infoboxes, and it arrives at a vague "important places" and a citation needed. Could I suggest that a good definition is "those destinations that are given in orange letters on a green background" (as opposed to "those destinations that are given in black letters on a white background")? The Dept of the Environment (or whatever they are called nowadays) must have some rules and a formal list. (We would need the official list because my local council has incorrectly put some local destinations on the A4146 in orange on green - I suppose because they couldn't be bothered to use the regulation white box on the green sign method!). Does anybody know where to find this list? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 18:00, 27 March 2008 (UTC)